Hi Lozinki,<div><br></div><div>What would be your advice for someone deciding to learn web programming new tool? Would you recommend Bluebream? And if not, why?</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards!</div><div>David<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bluebream-request@zope.org" target="_blank">bluebream-request@zope.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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1. Re: ZTFY and ZAM (Christopher Lozinski)<br>
2. New BlueBream Release (Christopher Lozinski)<br>
3. New BlueBream Release (Christopher Lozinski)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 09:08:07 -0500<br>
From: Christopher Lozinski <<a href="mailto:lozinski@freerecruiting.com">lozinski@freerecruiting.com</a>><br>
To: Baiju M <<a href="mailto:baiju.m.mail@gmail.com">baiju.m.mail@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:bluebream@zope.org">bluebream@zope.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [BlueBream] ZTFY and ZAM<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4FAA7A47.5000706@freerecruiting.com">4FAA7A47.5000706@freerecruiting.com</a>><br>
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On 5/8/12 11:17 PM, Baiju M wrote:<br>
> AFAIK, web2py is the only Python framework which provides a complete<br>
> TTW development experience. See this interactive demo:<br>
> <a href="http://web2py.com/demo_admin" target="_blank">http://web2py.com/demo_admin</a> More detailed documenation is available<br>
> here: <a href="http://web2py.com/book/default/chapter/03" target="_blank">http://web2py.com/book/default/chapter/03</a><br>
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Excellent market Information. I took a look at the documentation.<br>
web2py is based on a relational database. I far prefer an object<br>
database such as ZODB.<br>
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So the market niche I am looking at is TTW development, in python on top<br>
of an Object Database.<br>
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--<br>
Regards<br>
Christopher Lozinski<br>
<br>
Check out my iPhone apps TextFaster and EmailFaster<br>
<a href="http://textfaster.com" target="_blank">http://textfaster.com</a><br>
<br>
Expect a paradigm shift.<br>
<a href="http://MyHDLClass.com:8080" target="_blank">http://MyHDLClass.com:8080</a><br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:09:44 -0500<br>
From: Christopher Lozinski <<a href="mailto:lozinski@freerecruiting.com">lozinski@freerecruiting.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:bluebream@zope.org">bluebream@zope.org</a><br>
Subject: [BlueBream] New BlueBream Release<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4FAAA4D8.7010902@freerecruiting.com">4FAAA4D8.7010902@freerecruiting.com</a>><br>
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On April 17th, a new release of BlueBream with ZTFY tools was made.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.ztfy.org/news/2012/04/nouvelles-versions-des-paquets-ztfy.html" target="_blank">http://www.ztfy.org/news/2012/04/nouvelles-versions-des-paquets-ztfy.html</a><br>
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You can see it running here.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://ejr0.x.rootbsd.net:8083/" target="_blank">http://ejr0.x.rootbsd.net:8083/</a><br>
<br>
This is really the newest release of bluebream. Fire it up and login as<br>
admin:admin<br>
<br>
You get a ZMI out of the box.<br>
<br>
Sure it has a few ZTFY classes. You can use those or ignore them. If<br>
you are doing content management stuff, ZTFY is the way to go.<br>
Generally Thierrie's support has been brilliant. It is I that did not<br>
push ZTFY as much as I thought I wanted to.<br>
<br>
If you just want bluebream you have it right there. It was sitting<br>
under all of our noses.<br>
<br>
How did I figure this out? Well I want to debug ZAM, but I need a good<br>
starting point. I woke up this morning, and realized I could start off<br>
with ZTFY, and just remove ZTFY and add in ZAM. I took one look at the<br>
docs for buildout, and realized this stuff, like all of Zope is<br>
complicated, for good reason. So much easier to just use ZTFY<br>
distribution as the blue bream distribution. Hence the announcement.<br>
<br>
And the great news is that you now have at least two of us using<br>
BlueBream.<br>
<br>
In the meantime, I am heading out the door, to go Kayaking in Lake Gatun, surrounding the Panama canal. If you ever visit Panama, do send me an email.<br>
<br>
-- Regards Christopher Lozinski The future of Digital Design.<br>
<a href="http://MyHDLClass.com:8080" target="_blank">http://MyHDLClass.com:8080</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
Regards<br>
Christopher Lozinski<br>
<br>
Check out my iPhone apps TextFaster and EmailFaster<br>
<a href="http://textfaster.com" target="_blank">http://textfaster.com</a><br>
<br>
Expect a paradigm shift.<br>
<a href="http://MyHDLClass.com:8080" target="_blank">http://MyHDLClass.com:8080</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:08:06 -0500<br>
From: Christopher Lozinski <<a href="mailto:lozinski@specialtyjobmarkets.com">lozinski@specialtyjobmarkets.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:bluebream@zope.org">bluebream@zope.org</a><br>
Subject: [BlueBream] New BlueBream Release<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4FAAA476.7020604@specialtyjobmarkets.com">4FAAA476.7020604@specialtyjobmarkets.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
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<br>
<br>
On April 17th, a new release of BlueBream with ZTFY tools was made.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.ztfy.org/news/2012/04/nouvelles-versions-des-paquets-ztfy.html" target="_blank">http://www.ztfy.org/news/2012/04/nouvelles-versions-des-paquets-ztfy.html</a><br>
<br>
You can see it running here.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://ejr0.x.rootbsd.net:8083/" target="_blank">http://ejr0.x.rootbsd.net:8083/</a><br>
<br>
This is really the newest release of bluebream. Fire it up and login as<br>
admin:admin<br>
<br>
You get a ZMI out of the box.<br>
<br>
Sure it has a few ZTFY classes. You can use those or ignore them. If<br>
you are doing content management stuff, ZTFY is the way to go.<br>
Generally Thierrie's support has been brilliant. It is I that did not<br>
push ZTFY as much as I thought I wanted to.<br>
<br>
If you just want bluebream you have it right there. It was sitting<br>
under all of our noses.<br>
<br>
How did I figure this out? Well I want to debug ZAM, but I need a good<br>
starting point. I woke up this morning, and realized I could start off<br>
with ZTFY, and just remove ZTFY and add in ZAM. I took one look at the<br>
docs for buildout, and realized this stuff, like all of Zope is<br>
complicated, for good reason. So much easier to just use ZTFY<br>
distribution as the blue bream distribution. Hence the announcement.<br>
<br>
And the great news is that you now have at least two of us using<br>
BlueBream.<br>
<br>
In the meantime, I am heading out the door, to go Kayaking in the Panama<br>
canal. If you ever visit Panama, do send me an email.<br>
<br>
-- Regards Christopher Lozinski The future of Digital Design.<br>
<a href="http://MyHDLClass.com:8080" target="_blank">http://MyHDLClass.com:8080</a><br>
<br>
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