<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>Am 20.06.2007 um 17:38 schrieb Lennart Regebro:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I like the new grok too. But he does look slightly less friendly.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Could he be Grunt, Groks ZCML using friend, who has a frown because of</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">ZCML? :-)</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Hi Lennart,<DIV>take a look at my first more "optimistic" version Grok7.<BR><DIV><DIV>Am 20.06.2007 um 14:59 schrieb Armin Stroß-Radschinski:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>I upload some current pixel versions soon as possible and maybe a backport of the AI.</DIV><DIV>You can find a former state here:</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.dzug.org/marketing/corporate-design/grok/bild_1.png">http://www.dzug.org/marketing/corporate-design/grok/bild_1.png</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>regards </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Armin</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>But I agree with Martijn, that the original Grok has a "mysterius smile" in advance of simplification which leads to the smashing of ZCML. So the current Grok10 is a backport to the original version. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>There are more emotional impacts available soon or later (at this time as scribbles from Felicia, the original artist and of course later from me). They will be under progress at once, if there is a general decision is made to proceed with my version.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So if there is a broader consense, (it seems so) I need a kick. ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hi Sebastian:</DIV><DIV>Please take the Grok10 until final decisions are made. I provide you in the later with an EPS-Version. You can render this one in Photoshop as a transparent PNG in every size. This is ready now but not structured (flattened path) but will also open in AI11. Give me time for the backport of the smashing "Jumping-Jack" version until everything is ready.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.infopair.com/customer_area/download/grokcavenman10flat.eps">http://www.infopair.com/customer_area/download/grokcavenman10flat.eps</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Armin<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><DIV>--</DIV><DIV>Armin Carl Stroß-Radschinski, Dipl. Designer</DIV><DIV>acsr infopair, Landgrafenstraße 32, 53842 Troisdorf, Germany</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Telefon +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94, FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96</DIV><DIV>eMail a.stross-radschinski@infopair.com - <A href="http://www.infopair.com">http://www.infopair.com</A></DIV></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>