Hey Paul,<br>Thanks but the load times are the same independent of browser or firebug. I've tested with IE, epiphany and konqueror as well.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 12, 2008 3:44 PM, Paul Everitt <<a href="mailto:paul@zeapartners.org" target="_blank">
paul@zeapartners.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br>daniel wrote:<br>> Thanks,
<br>><br>> Here are my results on FireFox 3 beta2 with firebug 1.1b10:<br>><br>><br>> Console in debug:<br>> <a href="http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg" target="_blank">
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg</a><br>> <<a href="http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg" target="_blank">http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9189/firefox3b2firebug11b10djd7.jpg
</a>><br>><br>> Notice the two errors in the console.<br>><br>> Loadtimes in devel:<br>> <a href="http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg
</a><br>> <<a href="http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6781/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgg2.jpg</a>><br>><br>> Loadtimes in production:
<br>> <a href="http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8510/firefox3b2firebug11b10pcz0.jpg" target="_blank">http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8510/firefox3b2firebug11b10pcz0.jpg</a><br>><br>><br>> Notice the big problem seems to be
base2-dom-fp.js which takes over half<br>> a second to load. How many of these files are required?<br><br></div>Don't know if this helps or not:<br><br> <a href="http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2007/08/firebug-slow/" target="_blank">
http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2007/08/firebug-slow/</a><br><br>--Paul<br><div><br>> I'm not sure why it took 88ms to load a 4k static CSS file either. Or<br>> 65ms for the 80byte file.<br>> These numbers represent with everything cached they varied between
1.1<br>> and 1.4 seconds for the page load.<br>> Maybe I'm being too picky and 1.4 second load times are acceptable fully<br>> cached and local? My second Grok app has no CSS or JS and loads in 18ms.<br>>
<br>
> Then I tried to reload after clearing my browser's cache with<br>> ctr-shift-del and i get 13 second load times!<br>><br>> <a href="http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9441/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgm1.jpg" target="_blank">
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9441/firefox3b2firebug11b10dgm1.jpg</a><br>><br>> This was easily reproducible. kukit.js is the culprit every time and<br>> takes 12 seconds to get passed to the browser. Also obviously nothing is
<br>> rendered while this occurs and it did not matter if KSS was in devel or<br>> production.<br>><br>><br>> On Jan 11, 2008 4:15 AM, Sebastian Ware <<a href="mailto:sebastian@urbantalk.se" target="_blank">
sebastian@urbantalk.se
</a><br></div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@urbantalk.se" target="_blank">sebastian@urbantalk.se</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Try this<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.getfirebug.com/" target="_blank">
http://www.getfirebug.com/</a><br>><br>> Mvh Sebastian<br>><br>> 11 jan 2008 kl. 03.07 skrev daniel:<br>><br>> > Thanks Godefroid.<br>> > I've put it into dev mode and it 'seems' to have become better. I
<br>> > have difficulty saying for sure what the change is because I'm not<br>> > well versed in how to more adequately measure Grok webapp execution<br>> > and client rendering time. Is there someone who could write a nice
<br>> > documentation for this pretty please with sugar on top? :)<br>> ><br>> > On Jan 10, 2008 5:18 AM, Godefroid Chapelle < <a href="mailto:gotcha@bubblenet.be" target="_blank">gotcha@bubblenet.be
</a>
<br></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gotcha@bubblenet.be" target="_blank">gotcha@bubblenet.be</a>>><br><div><div></div><div>> > wrote:<br>> > daniel wrote:<br>> > > Hello,
<br>> > > I followed the KSS tutorial and integrated KSS into my Grok<br>> > application.<br>> > > I haven't actually done anything with it other than the one line<br>> > text
<br>> > > replacement that is in the tutorial, however I have started<br>> > experiencing<br>> > > 1-2 second view refresh lag times on my Grok app with KSS as<br>> > opposed to
<br>> > > another Grok app without it. Is this typical?<br>> > ><br>> > > -- Daniel<br>> ><br>> > Hmm, I have the feeling this is a problem we have seen at the
<br>> > beginning<br>> > with Plone as well.<br>> ><br>> > IIRC, this is a caching problem, kukit.js gets computed on each<br>> > request<br>> > because cache headers are missing.
<br>> ><br>> > Thanks for mentioning this, I'll look at it at the Snow Sprint<br>> > beginning<br>> > on Sat Jan 19.<br>> ><br>> > In the meanwhile, if you turn dev mode on with the
<br>> @@kss-devel-mode/ui<br>> > form, the lagging should disappear.<br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) <a href="http://bubblenet.be" target="_blank">
http://bubblenet.be</a><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> ><br>> > -- Daniel _______________________________________________<br>> > Grok-dev mailing list
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