This year at the NoSQL conference in New York I asked the organizers the same question, "how come ZODB didn't get any love?". I think the general impression is ZODB isn't a standalone solution and its tied to Zope. <br>
<br>I think getting some ZODB love on the NoSQL website is a good start. But that would just peek the potential users interest. Then they go to the homepage for ZODB, <a href="http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage" target="_blank">http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage</a> for more indepth information. The site is on the Zope wiki and the page almost presents ZODB as an afterthought for Zope rather then a technology on the forefront of NoSQL. There's no clear message conveyed, "this is how wonderful ZODB is, and its not just for Zope". <br>
<br>I think in order to make ZODB in eye catching strength of Grok it first needs to be presented as a solution to the general Python community.<br><br>Just my thoughts...<br><br>- Jim<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Roger Erens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roger.erens@e-s-c.biz">roger.erens@e-s-c.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 15:04, Martijn Faassen <<a href="mailto:faassen@startifact.com">faassen@startifact.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi there,<br>
><br>
> Toni Mueller wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I'm aware that this is not the right forum to talk about this, but due<br>
>> to lack of a better place, I'd like to throw the idea out here into the<br>
>> open:<br>
><br>
> I think this is the right place to talk about marketing Grok.<br>
><br>
>> Recent hype has it to mention databases that don't require/offer SQL.<br>
>> See <a href="http://nosql-database.org/" target="_blank">http://nosql-database.org/</a> for an overview. From my perspective,<br>
>> the ZODB would fit "perfectly" into this scheme of a database that has<br>
>> no SQL, right?<br>
><br>
> Good point. Last year at Pycon there was a lot of buzz about NoSQL.<br>
> CouchDB, MongoDB, Cassandra, etc. Nobody mentioned the ZODB, except<br>
> Guido in an object relational mapper panel discussion and he was<br>
> criticizing it (not unfair criticism). I was so pleased *someone* had<br>
> mentioned it I rudely interrupted him to cheer. :)<br>
><br>
>> If you think this way and can say something meaningful<br>
>> about it, it would be great if you could add an appropriate entry to<br>
>> this site. If you can't, but suspect someone else can, please notify<br>
>> him or her about this issue.<br>
><br>
> Right, hm, this is one for the website folks. Please reply and show<br>
> you're paying attention. We got the documentation folks organizing<br>
> already...<br>
<br>
</div>...<br>
<br>
I could send a message to that website's owner, Prof. Stefan Edlich.<br>
Please help me fill in the blanks before I contact him:<br>
<br>
API:<br>
Python 2.4.2 and later<br>
<br>
Protocol:<br>
blank?<br>
<br>
Query Method:<br>
blank?<br>
<br>
Replication:<br>
ZEO?<br>
<br>
Written in:<br>
Python<br>
<br>
Concurrency:<br>
blank?<br>
<br>
Misc:<br>
something more about ZEO?<br>
<br>
Links: e.g. Books, Talks, Presentations<br>
<a href="https://launchpad.net/zodb" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/zodb</a><br>
<a href="http://docs.zope.org/zodb/" target="_blank">http://docs.zope.org/zodb/</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage" target="_blank">http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage</a><br>
<br>
Website:<br>
<a href="http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ZODB3" target="_blank">http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ZODB3</a><br>
<br>
General remark about the <a href="http://nosql-database.org" target="_blank">nosql-database.org</a> website:<br>
SQL is not the only way to implement a relational DB:<br>
SQL != RDBMS<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Roger<br>
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