<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="" class=""><br class=""></span><div style="font-size: 10px;"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman <<a href="mailto:janwijbrand@gmail.com" class="">janwijbrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">What do you mean? The grok *package* didn't depend on paster or</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">anything? I guess that was deliberate as in principle developers should</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">be able to choose the wsgi-server themselves. For that the grokproject*</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">tool was about bringing all kinds of ingredients together to setup a</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">work web application.</span></span></div></blockquote><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Great to get a response on these issues. Thank you for the explanation. Makes sense to me. </span></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">So paster is part of grokproject or grok.install. </span></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman <<a href="mailto:janwijbrand@gmail.com" class="">janwijbrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">The first thing I thought of was the package name: it moves "install"</span><br class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">under the namespace "grok" where the grok package wasn't really</span><br class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">intendeed to be a namespace as such. I'm not exactly sure about the</span><br class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">implications of that.</span></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important; font-size: 12px;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important; font-size: 12px;">Understood. The reason I did not want to use the grokproject name is that this is a much simpler install. </span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important; font-size: 12px;">I am open to renaming it anything that people want. grocore.install?</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-size: 10px;"><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman <<a href="mailto:janwijbrand@gmail.com" class="">janwijbrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">What I think would be a good step forward is to have a static Grok</span><br class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">website served from </span><a href="http://readthedocs.org/" class="">readthedocs.org</a><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;"> or perhaps even from pythonhosted.or</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Another idea would be to move it to a Docker Container, there are multiple places that provide free hosting. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">And then we can have multiple versions on the web. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">What I really really want to do is get <a href="http://grok.zope.org" class="">grok.zope.org</a> responding quickly and have a recent release/date on the home page. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Another idea is to release grok.install as a Docker container. Then it is a trivial install. And lots of free hosting.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Regards</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">Chris</span></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 26px;" class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 16px; float: none; display: inline !important;"><br class=""></span></div></div><div style="font-size: 26px;"><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 20px;"><br class=""></div><br class=""></body></html>