<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> <div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 9, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Paul Sephton <<a href="mailto:prsephton@gmail.com" class="">prsephton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">From my experience, Grok is a big boy able to stand on it's own two feet without needing Plone as a crutch. I have built some pretty enormous systems based on ZTK technology, using little more than Eclipse, PyDev & Postgres, and the only reason I can maintain it all on my own is because of the component based approach to scaling the system.</span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Well that is the critical piece of information. Thank you. That makes two of us who have built substantial systems single handedly. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>My competitors <a href="http://zeef.com/" class="">Zeef.com</a> and <a href="http://glx.com/" class="">GLX.com</a> both spent millions of Euros. Zeef only has a two or three level hierarchy. They have multiple overlapping Python directories. GLX is not even up and running. At Polish salaries, for 3 years, I calculate 75K Euro invested in my software. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div>Who are your competitors? How much did they invest?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Any other interesting case studies on this mailing list? I can aggregate our stories. </div><div><br class=""></div><div> I am out telling the world about it. That includes talks to Venture Capitalists. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Pretty irresistible from a VC’s perspective to cut your investment by a factor of 40. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Warm Regards</div><div>Chris</div><div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>