Hi all, <br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I also have the same opinion as that of Ulrich in the matter of "making-noise"
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</blockquote> in the community.But even if such noises lead to mistakes we can learn from <br>
that and better ourselves.Still initially I will prefer to listen until I reach the <br>
threshold of creating noise.Let me introduce myself and my project briefly.<br>
<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I am a third year computer science & engineering student from a beautiful<br>
</blockquote> place Kerala in India. For years I have been working for propagating free and<br>
open sourse software mainly through the Linux/Free software users group <br>
Thrissur (my native place).<br>
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I was really excited when my project was selected for SoC . It will be a great<br>
experience for a student to do such a project and also I will be working in two <br>
of my favorite languages C and Python. Another great thing is that my mentor Baiju <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Muthukadan is an Indian from my own state.I am really glad to have him as my mentor.<br>
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My project is to run Zope3 using python2.5. I will be initially dealing with the</blockquote> changes in the C API. Now I am trying to port the ZODB (Zope Object<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Database) module to python2.5. Its importance is that it can be used by<br>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">non-Zope stand-alone Python applications also. For this I have created <br>
a branch in <a href="http://svn.zope.org">svn.zope.org</a> repository. I am also 'getting used' to the community<br>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">and project environment as said in Martijns mail.<br>
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With Regards,<br>
Nikhil<br><br></blockquote><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/10/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Uli Fouquet</b> <<a href="mailto:uli@gnufix.de">uli@gnufix.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi everybody,<br><br>On Wednesday, 09.05.2007, 00:04 +0200 Martijn Faassen wrote:<br><br>> I hope I'm reaching our summer of code students this way.<br><br>You hit, at least partly ;-)<br><br>> Students, if<br>> you haven't already, please subscribe to the
<a href="mailto:gsoc@zope.org">gsoc@zope.org</a> mailing<br>> list so we can have discussions about the Google Summer of Code as<br>> relating to Zope here.<br><br>I already did, and yes, I think this list would be a fine place for
<br>zope-related gsoc stuff. In the last weeks, however, the list was quite<br>quiet.<br><br>> We're currently in an interim period lasting until may 28 where the<br>> students are supposed to be learning more about their project
<br>> communities. I've indeed seen some students, but not all, pop up on<br>> various Zope related mailing lists. Others have been more quiet. I'd<br>> prefer to hear some noise from you guys. Noise (if at least somewhat
<br>> on-topic) is good for open source communities.<br><br>I see the point. However, even in open source communities too much noise<br>can be a problem too. Anyway, I might start right now making an idiot of<br>myself, to become - at one very, very distant day - as brilliant as
<br>Martijn ;-)<br><br>The problem with making-noise for non-gurus is, that there are many<br>excellent brains out on the lists, so I generally prefer to listen<br>instead of telling others what to do, simply, because others can do
<br>better.<br><br>For now, I might introduce myself with a very short sketch of my project<br>and some trivia. I would like to introduce the project in technical<br>terms deeper around the 28th of May and then, indeed, also on the zope3
<br>list.<br><br>Please let me tell you in advance, that I was very excited about my<br>project to be chosen to participate in the GSOC. Also the list of<br>mentors is the most excellent who-is-who of zope developers one can
<br>think of. It is an honour to work with you guys. My personal mentor will<br>be Phillip von Weitershausen, as you know one of the most active and<br>brilliant grok developers. I am very happy to work with you, Phillip.
<br><br>As some of you might have heard, my project is 'the other' grok project,<br>targetting the implementation of an interface for grok. 'Interface'<br>means an administration UI for installing and other most important
<br>administrative things you can do with zope3 components/applications.<br><br>Beside this, I will try to improve the documentation (you know, all the<br>XXX in the tutorial) and try to integrate some frequently asked zope3
<br>components.<br><br>Currently, I am trying to find out what 'frequently asked' components<br>means, to focus in the result on 'most frequently asked' components.<br><br>As said in Martijns Mail, the interim period until May 28 is supposed to
<br>'get used' to the community and the projects environments. I am<br>currently doing that by reading the most important mailing lists,<br>(re)reading Phillips excellent zope3-book and trying to be a good<br>evangelist in the local community.
<br><br>This might be the place for some trivia. As some of you might already<br>know, I am living in Bonn, the former capital of Western Germany, a town<br>of a few hundredthousands of inhibitants located in the south of
<br>Cologne. It is part of the Rheinland, the area which also includes the<br>Neanderthal.<br><br>I am currently doing my Ph.D. at the local university and my hobbies are<br>literature, zope and soaps (yes, the nifty little soap-operas from
<br>different countries). I earn my money doing systems administration<br>(Linux only) and programming (mostly python/zope-related, but also some<br>stuff in Perl, Java, C, C++ and even, sorry, PHP) on a freelancer-basis.
<br><br>Thanks to Aroldo Souza-Leites tireless exertions we have not only the<br>bones of the Neanderthaler-caveman here in Rheinland, but also a vivid<br>zope user group, which at the moment tends to become a _grok_ user
<br>group ;-) The meeting last month, where I had the prvilege to give a<br>short introduction into grok, was dedicated to grok and saw more<br>interested participants, than any meeting before. This was really<br>astonishing! It seems, that people just waited for grok to start to deal
<br>with zope3. Someone brought also a club (fortunately, nobody was<br>injured ;-)<br><br>The short talk on grok I had the chance to give on the last meeting will<br>be continued this month.<br><br>On the initiative of Aroldo (again) we are currently planning a
<br>grok-sprint for the late summer where I am also involved in the<br>preparations and would be very happy to see other grokkers there :-)<br><br>Meanwhile I am doing some support for the local grok users (which are<br>already planning big projects based on grok and have many, many
<br>questions ranging from 'how to use macros with grok', via 'AJAX and<br>grok' to 'how to use plone with grok') and I am trying to understand<br>more clearly all the concepts related to grok and zope3. Naturally, also
<br>some code is underway.<br><br>By the end of next week, I think, I can give a more elaborated sketch of<br>the project in general. Okay?<br><br>I will also be at the 8th annual congress of the German Zope User Group<br>
(DZUG) happening at the beginning of June in Potsdam near Berlin. I know<br>that some of you will be there too, so this might be a nice opportunity<br>to meet each other personally.<br><br>I hope, this is enough noise for the very beginning, you do not mind the
<br>length of this posting and apologize for the bad English.<br><br>Ah, and last not least: many thanks to you, Martijn for the wonderful<br>world of grok and to all the other contributors which made grok and<br>zope3 really happen.
<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Uli<br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>