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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
<br>
I approve your position Jens. <br>
<br>
Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform
does not make sense.<br>
<br>
Github is a proprietary platform. There is really no justification
in using a proprietary platform for open source projects,
especially considering that many open source alternatives exist
and that nothing prevents from using github as a mirror (for
marketing purpose for example).<br>
<br>
It is not only depressing to see open source communities not
eating their own dog food but also irresponsible.<br>
<br>
It is irresponsible because Cloud / SaaS is far from reliable.
Please read this to get an idea. (<a
href="http://iwgcr.org/paris-university-and-telecom-paristech-publish-availability-ranking-of-world-cloud-computing/">http://iwgcr.org/paris-university-and-telecom-paristech-publish-availability-ranking-of-world-cloud-computing/</a>).
Service outages are not rare.<br>
<br>
It is irresponsible because it sends a message to the market that
open source is not competitive (else open source communities would
use it for themselves). Many open source git hosting solutions do
exist (incl. gitorious, gitlab, indefero). Why not use them ?<br>
<br>
On a more positive side, Nexedi is currently sponsoring the port
of Gitlab (<a href="http://gitlabhq.com/">http://gitlabhq.com/</a>)
open source git platform to SlapOS (
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<a href="http://www.slapos.org/">http://www.slapos.org/</a>) open
source Cloud. This means that there will in a few days a python
based, Zope based, buildout based and fully resilient platform to
host open source projects, with the ability to manage copies of
source code on servers all around the world in a true community
fashion.<br>
<br>
And after reading today's message, I got so upset that I decided
that Nexedi will use SlapOS to offer hosting to any open source
Zope community project which believes enough in open source values
to use open source tools rather than proprietary ones. This will
include free support to any open source Zope project willing to
manage its own SlapOS platform rather rely on ours. Let us see if
Zope community will be the first or the last to eat its own dog
food ;-).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
JPS.<br>
Nexedi CEO<br>
<br>
PS. I do not mind behind hated for using the word "irresponsible",
whooever took the decision to use github. I do mean it. <br>
<br>
Le 18/08/2012 09:49, Jens Vagelpohl a écrit :<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi Alex,
Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else.
Thanks!
jens
On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:09 , J. Alexander Clark <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cvs-admin@zope.org"><cvs-admin@zope.org></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Log message for revision 127519:
Moved to github
Changed:
A zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt
D zc.buildout/trunk/
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Added: zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt
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--- zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt (rev 0)
+++ zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt 2012-08-18 01:09:06 UTC (rev 127519)
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+https://github.com/buildout/buildout/tree/1.6.x
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