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On 5/21/13 11:57 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> What have you done so far and
what did you contribute<br>
> so far?</span><br>
I have downloaded and installed ZTFY, and given Thierry lots of
feedback.<br>
Perhaps I even changed his direction more towards wikis as a ZTFY
application, instead of blogs.<br>
We will see what happens. That is a marketing activity, not a
software development activity, on my part.<br>
<br>
I have created most of<br>
wiki.ztfy.org<br>
<br>
Documenting open source software is a great way to understand it.<br>
<br>
I have created a high level introduction into the the packages in
ZTK<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zopache.com/ZTK_Package">http://www.zopache.com/ZTK_Package</a><br>
<br>
I have figured out the market niche for ZTFY. Sure it is a blog and
CMS. But there are many of those. <br>
It is an extensible blog and CMS. Because it is based on ZCA, it is
more flexible than existing CMS. If Plone meets your needs,
perfect, use it.<br>
But if you find Plone not sufficiently flexible, then it makes sense
to move to ZTFY. <br>
<br>
The announcement is ready to go out.<br>
<br>
Over the last two weeks, I have persuaded a developer to use ZTFY as
his content management application server for javascript
applications.<br>
<br>
That makes him the third user of ztfy. And I tell you the first few
users are by far the hardest ones to get. <br>
The rest come much faster.<br>
<br>
I helped him through the blue bream hello world demo. Actually I
figured out the bug in the tutorial.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zopache.com/HelloWorld">http://www.zopache.com/HelloWorld</a><br>
<br>
I have contracted out the first release of Zopache<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://zopache.com/RFP_Intro">http://zopache.com/RFP_Intro</a><br>
<br>
That page also covers the detailed ongoing Specs of what I am
building.<br>
<br>
And my consultant has downloaded and installed ztfy, and given
Thierry his feedback.<br>
Which makes the consultant the 4th user of ztfy.<br>
<br>
I have been encouraging others to post on these mailing lists, and I
have been answering questions on the mailing lists.<br>
<br>
And finally, with your help, we have made this mailing list much
livelier. All good.<br>
<br>
But really your question of what I have contributed so far is quite
hostile. If we want new users<br>
for ZTK, we should be much more friendly to people on these mailing
lists.<br>
<br>
In fact the new ZTFY user posted on these mailing lists, I sent him
a nice warm reply, soon we were talking, and now he is both
committed<br>
to ZTFY and understands why it is the best choice in the market for
his needs.<br>
<br>
I totally understand that there is way too much work to be done
here. That is why I am looking for consultants to contract it out
to.<br>
Actually that is why I am being really nice to newbies, in the hope
that they will join and contribute. This new guy does not like Page
Templates.<br>
He wants to use Jinja2. I pointed him towards Megrok.Jinja. I am
optimistic that he will migrate megrok.jinja to ztfy because he
needs it for his own purposes. We have already walked through the
code There are a few grok imports we still have to figure out how
to get rid of.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zopache.com/RFP_Jinja2">http://www.zopache.com/RFP_Jinja2</a><br>
<br>
See how easy it is to bring people into the fold! I encourage you
to be nice to others. It works! And then when they need to, they
contribute open source software.<br>
It is the only way it happens. <br>
<br>
Thanks again for the help with the Javascript question!<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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