From list at zettai.net Tue Jan 7 16:12:33 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [Zope-news] Re: Q: What's the gameplan... In-Reply-To: <7A94DE22-227A-11D7-8912-003065C7DEAE@zope-europe.org> Message-ID: yes, that's all we've got so far. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Paul Everitt > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:59:06 +0100 > To: george donnelly > Subject: Re: Q: What's the gameplan... > > > What's the workflow? Send an item for the news to the mailing list? > > --Paul > > On mardi, jan 7, 2003, at 20:57 Europe/Paris, george donnelly wrote: > >> no there hasn't. >> >> sounds good :) >> >> <--> >> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) >> Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion >> Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net >> >>> From: Paul Everitt >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:38:38 +0100 >>> To: george donnelly >>> Subject: Re: Q: What's the gameplan... >>> >>> >>> Has there been any traffic on the zope-news list? If so, I'm not >>> subscribed. (I can't remember if I subscribed or not). >>> >>> Let's try to get the first round of an outline going this week. >>> >>> --Paul >> > > From list at zettai.net Tue Jan 7 11:35:37 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [Zope-news] Re: Q: What's the gameplan... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: good question. :) maybe by mid-end of the this month? i was planning on sending out an announcement about the zope-news list and all that later this week or early next to get some attention. what do you think? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Paul Everitt > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:11:48 +0100 > To: george donnelly > Subject: Q: What's the gameplan... > > > ...for another Zope News? > > --Paul > > From list at zettai.net Tue Jan 7 14:57:49 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [Zope-news] Re: Q: What's the gameplan... In-Reply-To: <9E2DACC8-2277-11D7-8912-003065C7DEAE@zope-europe.org> Message-ID: no there hasn't. sounds good :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Paul Everitt > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:38:38 +0100 > To: george donnelly > Subject: Re: Q: What's the gameplan... > > > Has there been any traffic on the zope-news list? If so, I'm not > subscribed. (I can't remember if I subscribed or not). > > Let's try to get the first round of an outline going this week. > > --Paul From list at zettai.net Sun Jan 12 16:34:46 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Zope-News Project Needs You! Message-ID: I'm pleased to announce the opening of the Zope-News project, an open community effort to get Zope news and information into the public eye on a regular basis (and get fame and glory for Zopers who write about Zope! ;) ) To participate and stay informed, subscribe to the zope-news list now: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news We need your help with the following: Write short articles for Zope (Weekly) News, e.g.: -New Product Releases -New Howto Releases -General Community News -Interviews with Developers, Solution Providers, Community Members ... -Interesting Threads on Discussion lists (summaries/commentaries) -Anything else that has to do with Zope! The short-term goal is get out the Zope News every two weeks starting January 20th (and then 2/3, 2/17, 3/3, 3/17, etc). Here's the current workflow: send your writeup to zope-news@zope.org. Subscribe to the list here: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news The long term goal is to get Zope more into the public eye and get more Zopers writing about Zope. I've set up a wiki page under the NZO project for brainstorming and comments: http://www.zope.org/projects/nzo/ZopeNewsProject Looking forward to working with you to make Zope News the vibrant voice of the Zope Community! <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From george at zettai.net Sun Jan 12 17:35:16 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Suggested Topics for Jan 20th Zope News In-Reply-To: <1311CEE9-2678-11D7-BF39-003065C7DEAE@eurozope.org> Message-ID: hi everyone below are some suggested topics from paul for the jan 20th zope news. anybody interested in any of these topics? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net ---------- From: Paul Everitt Interesting points: o Rotterdam and Vilnius sprints in the past o Zope 2.6.1b1 and 3.0a1 o I think Gary did another newsletter o SolutionsLinux and the sprint there in the future o The Plone sprint after that o Plone rc2 and hopefully Zope 2.6b2 o zope-europe I'd also like to revisit some special features: o We did a "focus on" ZopeLabs, how about FreeZope or ZopeZen? o We could also focus on DZUG, the German zope user group that is kicking butt o We might also do a personal interview with some prominent Zopista On this last point, I will hopefully start my long-promised "Zope Almanac" this week. I plan to create the authoritative reference for people, companies, sites, user groups, and press mentions in the world of Zope. I'd like to do it in a way where I dribble the contents out, a few a week, rather than wait for some big publication ten years from now. --Paul From sidnei at x3ng.com Mon Jan 13 07:00:34 2003 From: sidnei at x3ng.com (Sidnei da Silva) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Suggested Topics for Jan 20th Zope News In-Reply-To: References: <1311CEE9-2678-11D7-BF39-003065C7DEAE@eurozope.org> Message-ID: <20030113120034.GA4298@x3ng.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 05:35:16PM -0500, george donnelly wrote: | hi everyone | | below are some suggested topics from paul for the jan 20th zope news. | anybody interested in any of these topics? May I suggest another one? As you said on the announcement email, it would be interesting to mention some active threads on the mailing lists. I suggest mentioning the current discussions on zope-web about new zope.org and mirrors. []'s -- Sidnei da Silva (dreamcatcher) X3ng Web Technology GNU/Linux user 257852 Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (Sid) 2.4.18 ppc The world is coming to an end. Please log off. From list at zettai.net Mon Jan 13 07:56:47 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Suggested Topics for Jan 20th Zope News In-Reply-To: <20030113120034.GA4298@x3ng.com> Message-ID: of course, and please feel free to suggest more. ok I'll add that to the list. :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Sidnei da Silva > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:00:34 -0200 > To: george donnelly > Cc: zopenews > Subject: Re: [zope-news] Suggested Topics for Jan 20th Zope News > > May I suggest another one? As you said on the announcement email, it > would be interesting to mention some active threads on the mailing > lists. I suggest mentioning the current discussions on zope-web about > new zope.org and mirrors. From gary at zope.com Mon Jan 13 07:59:39 2003 From: gary at zope.com (Gary Poster) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Re: [Zope-Annce] Zope-News Project Needs You! References: Message-ID: <3E22B83B.3050806@zope.com> Hi George. This sounds like a great idea. Do you want to integrate with the Zope 3 news thing I do monthly-ish, so that the two projects are somehow at least aware of one another? I'm not sure what this might mean... Here's a start at brainstorming--as usual with brainstorming, some of these will be useless or stupid :-). - interweave the schedules - have a standardized presentational format, both in email and on the web - similarloy, leverage any web zope-product-for-news-gathering-and-presentation effort for both projects (if such a thing could be useful) - have a standardized way to submit news - promote each other - gather a general team of people who feel that news is important, to share effort wherever possible I dunno, my brainstorming efforts sound pretty lame, but I it seems to me this might be a good idea. Thoughts? Gary george donnelly wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the opening of the Zope-News project, an open > community effort to get Zope news and information into the public eye on a > regular basis (and get fame and glory for Zopers who write about Zope! ;) ) > > > To participate and stay informed, subscribe to the zope-news list now: > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news > > > We need your help with the following: > > Write short articles for Zope (Weekly) News, e.g.: > > -New Product Releases > -New Howto Releases > -General Community News > -Interviews with Developers, Solution Providers, Community Members ... > -Interesting Threads on Discussion lists (summaries/commentaries) > -Anything else that has to do with Zope! > > > The short-term goal is get out the Zope News every two weeks starting > January 20th (and then 2/3, 2/17, 3/3, 3/17, etc). > > > Here's the current workflow: send your writeup to zope-news@zope.org. > Subscribe to the list here: > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news > > > The long term goal is to get Zope more into the public eye and get more > Zopers writing about Zope. > > I've set up a wiki page under the NZO project for brainstorming and > comments: > > http://www.zope.org/projects/nzo/ZopeNewsProject > > Looking forward to working with you to make Zope News the vibrant voice of > the Zope Community! > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) > Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion > Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions > > (Related lists - > Users: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > Developers: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From list at zettai.net Mon Jan 13 08:12:32 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Re: [Zope-Annce] Zope-News Project Needs You! In-Reply-To: <3E22B83B.3050806@zope.com> Message-ID: [Gary Poster] > > I dunno, my brainstorming efforts sound pretty lame, but I it seems to > me this might be a good idea. Thoughts? > > Gary doesn't sound lame to me, i think its a great idea. let's see how we can work together. for one thing please feel free to use this list to organize/coordinate the zope3 news. one thing that i've been advocating is an integrated news app for NZO with workflow and multiple-contributor-friendly, like a community-blog-type app... <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From gary at zope.com Mon Jan 13 08:30:17 2003 From: gary at zope.com (Gary Poster) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Re: [Zope-Annce] Zope-News Project Needs You! References: Message-ID: <3E22BF69.5090708@zope.com> ok, great. Since this is a meta-news list of people who want to help with assembling news (yes?), should this list address be given as the address to which submissions are sent? That might be nice to clarify that the group does the newsletters, kinda, rather than the particular individual who has assembled the current one. It also would allow the group to see if the person holding the newsletter-assembly mantle has missed something and so on. I do think a news app could be useful. I have five million other projects ahead of it, myself, though; moreover, unsurprisingly, I'd want it to be built in such a way that it could be relatively easily migrated to Zope 3. Not too bad to do. :-) Gary george donnelly wrote: > [Gary Poster] > >>I dunno, my brainstorming efforts sound pretty lame, but I it seems to >>me this might be a good idea. Thoughts? >> >>Gary > > > doesn't sound lame to me, i think its a great idea. let's see how we can > work together. for one thing please feel free to use this list to > organize/coordinate the zope3 news. > > one thing that i've been advocating is an integrated news app for NZO with > workflow and multiple-contributor-friendly, like a community-blog-type > app... > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) > Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion > Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From list at zettai.net Mon Jan 13 08:50:50 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Re: [Zope-Annce] Zope-News Project Needs You! In-Reply-To: <3E22BF69.5090708@zope.com> Message-ID: [Gary Poster] > ok, great. > > Since this is a meta-news list of people who want to help with > assembling news (yes?), should this list address be given as the address > to which submissions are sent? yes and yes. :) > That might be nice to clarify that the > group does the newsletters, kinda, rather than the particular individual > who has assembled the current one. It also would allow the group to see > if the person holding the newsletter-assembly mantle has missed > something and so on. yes i agree. and/or give individual credit for individual articles and general credit to the zope-news project? > I do think a news app could be useful. I have five million other > projects ahead of it, myself, though; moreover, unsurprisingly, I'd want > it to be built in such a way that it could be relatively easily migrated > to Zope 3. Not too bad to do. :-) > heh heh. well i assumed i would have to do it since i proposed it. i hadn't thought about zope 3 compatibility though... <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From gary at zope.com Mon Jan 13 10:53:33 2003 From: gary at zope.com (Gary Poster) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Zope 3 newsletter submissions, suggestions Message-ID: <3E22E0FD.2000101@zope.com> Hello, all. It's time to gather Zope 3 news again: this time, please send it to the new zope news work list, zope-news@zope.org. As usual, short and sweet is great: we'd rather have something short than nothing at all. I'm aiming for the middle of the month, so please send soonish. I imagine this date and process will become a bit more structured as we try to integrate more fully with the zope-news effort. Finally, please also send suggestions as to the future direction of the newsletter. Volunteers to implement those ideas would be nice too. :-) Gary From stephan.richter at tufts.edu Mon Jan 13 12:45:08 2003 From: stephan.richter at tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Locale Support and basic Online Help for Zope 3 Message-ID: <200301131245.08810.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> Locale Support Over Christmas I finished the implementation of the Locale Support Proposal: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope3/I18nFormatLocaleSupport While it was overshadowed by some license problems (that are now resolved) and some grief with time.strptime() on Windows, the zope.i18n.locales is a powerful package to localize everything around number and datetime objects. Since I utilized the ICU project's XML-based locale information, we have now full support of all locales that ICU supports! At the heart of the locale support lies the zope.i18n.format module, which can be used independently of the locales package. It can read number and date/time format patterns. It then uses these binary patterns to parse for example date/time strings into datetime objects or convert datetime objects to strings. All of the code is accompanied by over 450 tests. Some of the ToDo-items include documentation, integration into ZPT and the Translation Service, and maybe restructuring the Translation Service to use Locales instead of Message Catalogs. Online Help I also implemented http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope3/OnlineHelp The Online Help is supposed to be incredibly similar to Zope 2's Help. Since currently we do not have STX or ReST implmented in Zope 3, I was able to implement the proposal only for plain text files. You can access the Online help from everywhere adding ++help++ to the URL, like in http://localhost:8080/++help++ Furthermore, if you want to see the OnlineHelp in action, you should create a File and click on Upload; look at the right column of the screen and you will see an 'online help' box. We urgently need people to write documentation for the onlinehelp, documenting the various screens and functionality! Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From thierry.goyvaerts at skynet.be Mon Jan 13 13:13:05 2003 From: thierry.goyvaerts at skynet.be (GOYVAERTS Thierry) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] @rchitect sc : Internet software architecture office Message-ID: <000b01c2bb2f$70694780$369ac950@tgoyvaerts> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Now is also the time to pick up something for the Feb 3 issue! :) ) - Plone1.0 RC2 released - Zope3 stuff, esp Gary Poster's recent newsletter - AdaptableStorage release - summarize the current discussions on zope-web about new zope.org and mirrors. - very important! - summarize any other interesting threads on any other mailing - new howto's or articles on zope? - interview/feature on freezope.org, zopezen.org, DZUG, the German zope user group, the problems at Beehive and/or Zope Europe and/or a personal interview with some prominent Zopista (Dieter?) o Rotterdam and Vilnius sprints in the past o Zope 2.6.1b1 and 3.0a1 o SolutionsLinux and the sprint there in the future o The Plone sprint after that o Plone rc2 and hopefully Zope 2.6b2 - anything else that you or your organization would like to highlight Please pick one and help us out! :) btw if you signed up after monday you might want to check out the list archives to get up to speed: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-news/2003-January/date.html <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From kedai at kedai.com.my Thu Jan 16 02:01:04 2003 From: kedai at kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301161501.04325.kedai@kedai.com.my> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:40, george donnelly wrote: > hi all > > Well we've gone from 10 to 73 members (of this list) in three days, I'm > impressed. :) > > So has anyone committed to any topics? Until we get an app set up to handle > this, let's do it this way: to take ownership of a topic, please write to > the list, tell us your name, the topic you're going to write about and for > what issue of the news (issues come out every 2 weeks starting 1/20). i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is i only did products release and new howtos as of 16 dc 2002 until today thanks -- http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org As you woke this morning, and open up your eyes... did you notice the tear stains lining your face were mine. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-news/attachments/20030116/3c7352d6/newStuff.html From editor at to-tech.com Thu Jan 16 04:13:41 2003 From: editor at to-tech.com (MobileViews/TO-Tech Editor) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Zope in Govt. < Good point (re: signing up for topic areas). I'll volunteer to help collect news about Zope use in Government settings. I already collect Open Source info in govt. at... http://mobileviews.freezope.org/govtos ---- Original Message ---- From: zope-news-request@zope.org To: zope-news@zope.org Subject: RE: Zope-News digest, Vol 1 #5 - 1 msg Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:00:09 -0500 >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:40:52 -0500 >From: george donnelly >To: zopenews >Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? > >hi all > >Well we've gone from 10 to 73 members (of this list) in three days, >I'm >impressed. :) > >So has anyone committed to any topics? Until we get an app set up to >handle >this, let's do it this way: to take ownership of a topic, please >write to >the list, tell us your name, the topic you're going to write about >and for >what issue of the news (issues come out every 2 weeks starting 1/20). From chrisw at nipltd.com Thu Jan 16 06:56:38 2003 From: chrisw at nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? References: <200301161501.04325.kedai@kedai.com.my> Message-ID: <3E269DF6.50301@nipltd.com> Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: > i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is It missed the Squishdot and Strip-O-Gram releases again. Why is that? Chris From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 16 08:50:09 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? In-Reply-To: <3E269DF6.50301@nipltd.com> Message-ID: [Chris Withers commented on 1/16/03 6:56 AM] > Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: >> i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is > > It missed the Squishdot and Strip-O-Gram releases again. > > Why is that? > > Chris if you want to send in the info on that it'll get included. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 16 08:50:34 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Zope in Govt. < Message-ID: [MobileViews/TO-Tech Editor commented on 1/16/03 4:13 AM] > Good point (re: signing up for topic areas). > > I'll volunteer to help collect news about Zope use in Government > settings. I already collect Open Source info in govt. at... > > http://mobileviews.freezope.org/govtos excellent. I know we're all looking forward to your contributions! <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 16 08:50:58 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? In-Reply-To: <200301161501.04325.kedai@kedai.com.my> Message-ID: [Bakhtiar A Hamid commented on 1/16/03 2:01 AM] > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:40, george donnelly wrote: >> hi all >> >> Well we've gone from 10 to 73 members (of this list) in three days, I'm >> impressed. :) >> >> So has anyone committed to any topics? Until we get an app set up to handle >> this, let's do it this way: to take ownership of a topic, please write to >> the list, tell us your name, the topic you're going to write about and for >> what issue of the news (issues come out every 2 weeks starting 1/20). > > i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is > > i only did products release and new howtos as of 16 dc 2002 until today > > thanks great, kedai. you rock. :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From chrisw at nipltd.com Thu Jan 16 09:11:40 2003 From: chrisw at nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? References: Message-ID: <3E26BD9C.2010901@nipltd.com> george donnelly wrote: > [Chris Withers commented on 1/16/03 6:56 AM] > > >>Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: >> >>>i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is >> >>It missed the Squishdot and Strip-O-Gram releases again. >> >>Why is that? >> >>Chris > > > if you want to send in the info on that it'll get included. Both news items are on: http://www.zope.org/ZopeNews?query_start=10 cheers, Chris From rdmurray+dated+1043162046.59abab at bitdance.com Thu Jan 16 10:14:06 2003 From: rdmurray+dated+1043162046.59abab at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] zope3 news submission Message-ID: <1042730046.70576.TMDA@twirl.bitdance.com> Gary Poster wrote: >Hello, all. It's time to gather Zope 3 news again: this time, please I'm not sure if this news from the right timeframe or not, but I did some work just pre alpha that I haven't reported before: Based on Jim's instructions, I rewrote the the auth service (zope/app/services/auth.py) to speed up user lookup by dropping the BTreeContainer mixin, switching to using two BTrees for the data (principal id and username), and implementing the rest of IContainer directly on the auth class. I then altered IPrincipal to include a getRoles attribute, implemented it on the PrincipalBase class, and altered the zopepolicy security policy to grab the Authentication service and use the getRoles method of the principal to compute the base roles instead of using only anonymous, as it did before. From isaac at structuredsystems.net Thu Jan 16 14:08:34 2003 From: isaac at structuredsystems.net (Isaac Levy) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Hello there, Message-ID: Go Zope News! I posted a quick how-to for users of MM Dreamweaver, on using Zope over DAV- gotten some good feedback on it already (which surprised me, as I felt it relatively insignificant as a how-to) but anyhow, people dig pictures. Feel free to re-publish it in any manner if you would like- http://www.zope.org/Members/ike/dreamweaver/DAV Best, .ike Isaac Levy + Office of Structured Systems http://structuredsystems.net From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 16 15:10:29 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Hello there, In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Isaac Levy commented on 1/16/03 2:08 PM] > Go Zope News! > > I posted a quick how-to for users of MM Dreamweaver, on using Zope over > DAV- gotten some good feedback on it already (which surprised me, as I > felt it relatively insignificant as a how-to) but anyhow, people dig > pictures. > > Feel free to re-publish it in any manner if you would like- > > http://www.zope.org/Members/ike/dreamweaver/DAV > > Best, > .ike thanks ike, i know a lot of people have trouble with this topic. i'll make sure this gets included. :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From kedai at kedai.com.my Thu Jan 16 19:26:55 2003 From: kedai at kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? In-Reply-To: <3E269DF6.50301@nipltd.com> References: <200301161501.04325.kedai@kedai.com.my> <3E269DF6.50301@nipltd.com> Message-ID: <200301170826.55067.kedai@kedai.com.my> On Thursday 16 January 2003 19:56, Chris Withers wrote: > Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: > > i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is > > It missed the Squishdot and Strip-O-Gram releases again. > > Why is that? i think chrism's report tool only checks new products.. and i didn't ran the report tool for news items. should i ? > > Chris -- http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org We don't need no, no no no, no parental guidance here From huima at fountainpark.org Sat Jan 18 08:07:54 2003 From: huima at fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Hello there ( webdav ) Message-ID: <3E2951AA.4090406@fountainpark.org> >>Go Zope News! >>> Feel free to re-publish it in any manner if you would like- >>> >>> http://www.zope.org/Members/ike/dreamweaver/DAV > > thanks ike, i know a lot of people have trouble with this topic. i'll make > sure this gets included. :) Actually what would be really cool, is to do these small features that collect different sources of one topic and has some sort of introduction to subject. This webdav subject is something that could be in next news, since it is something that many of us has had problems - especially with brokes MS implemntations etc. I wrote one email about using Webdrive or Xythos client as a webdav-client to Zope in windows, and how to do relevant PUT_factory for it: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/47ba74c812dbc5dd8025687f0024bb5f/e85d1563d5beb2d380256c990005bcb2?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,webdrive -- Heimo Laukkanen Oy Fountain Park Ltd H?meentie 153 B, 00560 Helsinki, Finland tel. +358 9 777 68 161, gsm +358 40 759 1110, fax +358 9 777 68 100 http://www.fountainpark.com From ausum_studio at hotmail.com Sat Jan 18 10:40:59 2003 From: ausum_studio at hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Portlets for the CMF get interactive Message-ID: I'm working on the next release of CMFPortlets, v 0.5.1, and the major new feature will be the interactive layout, thanks to OptionChooser 1.0, a DHTML layers switcher and chooser based on the Dynapi library, which I got to know by means of Tim Lynch, member of our community. OptionChooser is written by Dan George. CMFPortlets 0.5.1 will be released during the next week. An installer for Plone will be delayed until the release of its 1.0 version, due to remaining issues related to the behaviour of SkinnedFolders, which are the primitives for portlets. Ausum From jeffrey at cuemedia.com Sun Jan 19 15:40:02 2003 From: jeffrey at cuemedia.com (Jeffrey P Shell) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] (submission) The ZSP 100 Message-ID: <2F6BEA24-2BEE-11D7-9A16-000A2782F316@cuemedia.com> As of this weekend, with the addition of TEKK from Copenhagen Denmark and Uptime Systeml?sungen GmbH from Vienna Austria, the Zope Solution Providers list now has 100 members. From chrisw at nipltd.com Mon Jan 20 12:49:20 2003 From: chrisw at nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] So, Who's Gonna do What? References: <200301161501.04325.kedai@kedai.com.my> <3E269DF6.50301@nipltd.com> <200301170826.55067.kedai@kedai.com.my> Message-ID: <3E2C36A0.9000706@nipltd.com> Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 19:56, Chris Withers wrote: > >>Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: >> >>>i ran chrism's report tool, and the result is attached as is >> >>It missed the Squishdot and Strip-O-Gram releases again. >> >>Why is that? > > i think chrism's report tool only checks new products.. > and i didn't ran the report tool for news items. should i ? I think so. Most mature products are old, and the news items are the only hint that new versions of them have come along. Hmmm... that said, maybe you should be looking for new Product Release instances. If that's what you were doing, then I have no idea why my two new products weren't picked up... cheers, Chris From lozinski at openstepnews.com Tue Jan 21 22:04:03 2003 From: lozinski at openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Publicity for zope News Message-ID: <3E2E0A23.7FCFC5DE@openstepnews.com> I invite the zope news website to join the zope banner exchange. www.pythonandzope.org/BannerInfo You can also join the directory and the web ring. Regards Christopher Lozinski From list at zettai.net Tue Jan 21 22:43:09 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Publicity for zope News In-Reply-To: <3E2E0A23.7FCFC5DE@openstepnews.com> Message-ID: [Christopher Lozinski commented on 1/21/03 10:04 PM] > > I invite the zope news website to join the zope banner exchange. > > www.pythonandzope.org/BannerInfo > > You can also join the directory and the web ring. > > Regards > Christopher Lozinski > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-News mailing list > Zope-News@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news > sounds great. we don't have a website yet though ;) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From troy at entheossoft.com Wed Jan 22 16:15:33 2003 From: troy at entheossoft.com (Troy Farrell) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] ATTN: whoever is doing zope.org news (old ZWN) Message-ID: <3E2F09F5.80609@entheossoft.com> You will want to cover the firestorm set off by Shane Hathaway's mini-proposal(1) on the ZPT mailing list(2). Proposed changes go from adding two new tags(1) to changing the order of tal: operations(3) to allowing a user-selectable order of operations(4) to no changes at all(5). No conclusions yet... 1) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004210.html 2) http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zpt 3) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004214.html 4) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004226.html 5) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004244.html Troy Farrell BTW, I'm not on the list... From list at zettai.net Wed Jan 22 16:26:28 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] ATTN: whoever is doing zope.org news (old ZWN) In-Reply-To: <3E2F09F5.80609@entheossoft.com> Message-ID: [Troy Farrell commented on 1/22/03 4:15 PM] > You will want to cover the firestorm set off by Shane Hathaway's > mini-proposal(1) on the ZPT mailing list(2). Proposed changes go from > adding two new tags(1) to changing the order of tal: operations(3) to > allowing a user-selectable order of operations(4) to no changes at > all(5). No conclusions yet... > hey thanks! i'm a littl behind but i'm going to try to get an issue out today or tomorrow at the latest. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From troy at entheossoft.com Thu Jan 23 11:18:55 2003 From: troy at entheossoft.com (Troy Farrell) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition Message-ID: <3E3015EF.3060705@entheossoft.com> The situation gets more interesting as Casey proposes another solution to our zpt woes(1) ... I think this could be added to the news report... 1) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004247.html Troy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition From: Casey Duncan On Tuesday 21 January 2003 09:16 pm, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Evan Simpson wrote: > >>>> I had propsed changing the order of operations from "define, >> condition, >>>> repeat, etc." to "repeat, define, condition, etc.", and using a >>>> processing instruction in a similar fashion to Python's >>>> "import from >>>> __future__". > > +1 from me. It's better than my proposal. Here's a counter-proposal that I think might combine both of yours and solve the backward compatibility issue: Invent a new repeat tag that happens first and leave the existing repeat tag alone. This tag would not be understood by older TAL processors, but it would not break any existing page templates or harm those blissfully ignorant of the change. Something like:
Another similar but more general idea would be to invent some way to specify in a tag that you wanted it to happen before other TAL tags. A stupid way that comes to mind would be to invent a new namespace. Another would be to introduce a flag in the attribute value that says "do me first". I'm not sure how we would spell this though. For example:
All "pretal" tags get evaluated before "tal" tags (but using the same order within that namespace as within tal). -Casey From troy at entheossoft.com Thu Jan 23 12:13:46 2003 From: troy at entheossoft.com (Troy Farrell) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition References: Message-ID: <3E3022CA.9080606@entheossoft.com> Err, uh, probably. What's the deadline (so I can set my own cutoff)? Do you want html or plain text? Troy george donnelly wrote: > [Troy Farrell commented on 1/23/03 11:18 AM] > > >>The situation gets more interesting as Casey proposes another solution >>to our zpt woes(1) ... I think this could be added to the news report... >> >>1) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004247.html >> >>Troy > > > can i convince you to do a little writeup on this? bc i'm really pressed for > time and i'm behind on the news. thanks! > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) > Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion > Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 23 12:15:11 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition In-Reply-To: <3E3015EF.3060705@entheossoft.com> Message-ID: [Troy Farrell commented on 1/23/03 11:18 AM] > The situation gets more interesting as Casey proposes another solution > to our zpt woes(1) ... I think this could be added to the news report... > > 1) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004247.html > > Troy can i convince you to do a little writeup on this? bc i'm really pressed for time and i'm behind on the news. thanks! <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From gary at zope.com Thu Jan 23 12:49:41 2003 From: gary at zope.com (Gary Poster) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition References: <3E3022CA.9080606@entheossoft.com> Message-ID: <3E302B35.3000500@zope.com> Forgive me for hazarding two guesses: today, and plain text. If you can write it up in fifteen minutes today then that will be relatively easy, and you're more likely to do it again, if asked, next time. Which is a win for the zope news effort. :-) Again, George, I intend to help, not step on toes; feel free to contradict me, anyone! But, Troy, I think my advice is decent. Gary Troy Farrell wrote: > Err, uh, probably. What's the deadline (so I can set my own cutoff)? Do > you want html or plain text? > > Troy > > george donnelly wrote: > >> [Troy Farrell commented on 1/23/03 11:18 AM] >> >> >>> The situation gets more interesting as Casey proposes another solution >>> to our zpt woes(1) ... I think this could be added to the news >>> report... >>> >>> 1) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004247.html >>> >>> Troy >> >> >> >> can i convince you to do a little writeup on this? bc i'm really >> pressed for >> time and i'm behind on the news. thanks! >> >> <--> >> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) >> Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion >> Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-News mailing list > Zope-News@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 23 13:21:28 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition In-Reply-To: <3E3022CA.9080606@entheossoft.com> Message-ID: [Troy Farrell commented on 1/23/03 12:13 PM] > Err, uh, probably. What's the deadline (so I can set my own cutoff)? > Do you want html or plain text? > > Troy deadline? how about tonight? ;) or maybe tomorrow morning. whenever you can do it. i'm going to try and release the next issue by tomorrow. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From list at zettai.net Thu Jan 23 13:22:21 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Fw: Re: [ZPT] Mini proposal: repeat-define and repeat-condition In-Reply-To: <3E302B35.3000500@zope.com> Message-ID: [Gary Poster commented on 1/23/03 12:49 PM] > Forgive me for hazarding two guesses: today, and plain text. > > If you can write it up in fifteen minutes today then that will be > relatively easy, and you're more likely to do it again, if asked, next > time. Which is a win for the zope news effort. :-) > > Again, George, I intend to help, not step on toes; feel free to > contradict me, anyone! But, Troy, I think my advice is decent. > > Gary you're right on target gary. thanks :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From george at zettai.net Mon Jan 27 22:30:43 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] workflow Message-ID: i am quickly learning that the current workflow is really not adequate. It make it prohibitively difficult to assemble an issue of zope news. I'm thinking about setting up a CMF/plone site to manage this. Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions on the matter? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From george at zettai.net Mon Jan 27 22:47:04 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Zope News Jan 27 2002 Message-ID: ZOPE NEWS January 27, 2002 1. DECISION TIME ON NEW ZOPE.ORG NZO is moving along thanks to the efforts of Guido, Sidnei, Jeff and others but the Zope Community has an important role to play. Should Plone be used? or the CMF? What content should be carried over to NZO and who's going to help out with this? Guido van Rossum's Latest Update on NZO http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2003-January/002310.html An Open Letter Advocating the use of Plone for NZO http://plone.org/Members/zwark/plone-nzo An open discussion on how to organize a community voting process for the NZO decision http://plone.org/Members/slinkp/CMF_Wiki.2003-01-25.3013/CommunityDecisionPr ocess 2. CMF 1.4: HELP WANTED Andy McKay is looking for help with the CMF 1.4 release. http://cmf.zope.org/projmgmt/project_schedule/roadmap_1_4 The relevent discussions on the CMF list: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-cmf/2003-January/thread.html#16893 3. ZOPE 3 SPRINTS December saw two Zope 3 sprints in Europe. The first, organized by Kit Blake at Infrae, brought together a large group of sprinters for a wonderful week-long session. Much was accomplished, not just in committed code, but in brainstorming and knowledge sharing. Rotterdam was a blast and Kit really did an exceptional job at running the circus. http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/InfraeSprin tathon http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Alpha1Sprin t 4. ZOPE RELEASES In the last newsletter we discussed Jim's promise to get a Zope 3 alpha1 release out in 2002. Well, in most timezones, Jim met his promise! On Dec 31, Zope 3 officially saw its first light of day. The release had its intended impact: focus was brought to the project and the schedule. Quietly another release began to make its way out. Zope 2.6.1 beta1 was released, with fixes for some problems in 2.6.0. Another beta was scheduled for December, but that slipped. The second beta is planned for January, though no announcement has been made. 5. PLONE 1.0 RC2, FINAL IN SIGHT A second release candidate for Plone was released Jan 22. The number of translations is now up to 24! Also, if you want Plone to look different than the Norwegian Blue layout, RC2 has 8 new skins. http://plone.org/Members/runyaga/news/RC2_released 6. UPCOMING EVENTS SolutionLinux 2003 The Zope Europe Association has organized a pavilion of Zope companies and organizations for SolutionsLinux 2003, Paris, Feb 4-6. Participants include Ingeniweb, PilotSystems, Logilab, Cocof, Zope and Python Job Mart, University of Savoie, and Zopera. In conjunction with the pavilion, there is a second Zope 3 UI Sprint in Paris during the same week. http://www.zope-europe.org/sl2003/ Berne Plone Sprint The week after the Zope pavilion, there is a Plone sprint in Berne, Switzerland (Feb 10-12). Bernhard B?hlmann is organizing it, and he has an impressive list of attendees. And yes, Berne is gorgeous. http://plone.org/Members/buehlmann/PloneSprintBerne/News_Item.2002-12-06.054 9 DZUG meeting and sprint Christian Theune, Maik Jablonski, and the other DZUG'ers are planning a DZUG meeting Mar 24-27. Along with the meeting, a sprint is planned. Looks like Tres Seaver from ZC will be there as well. http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/DZUGSprint 7. ZOPE 3 NEWSLETTER NO. 6 http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope3Newsl etter6 8. DISCUSSION ON IMPROVEMENTS TO ZPT If you've used Page Templates and the associated TAL functions, you've probably enjoyed the enhanced usefulness and flexibility they offer. Nevertheless, there is always room for improvement. Order of TAL operations(1) has been the topic du jour on the ZPT mailing list(2). Shane Hathaway introduced his "Mini proposal"(3) to improve TAL by adding two new attributes: tal:repeat-define and tal:repeat-condition. At issue is the fact that due to the order of operations, a tal:define or tal:condition will only be executed once when on the same element as a tal:repeat. Shane's proposal adds two attributes that would be evaluated for each repetition. Well, what looked like a fairly straight-forward request generated a storm of comments. The reactions ranged from moderate approval (4) (5) to proposals to change the order of operations and not add tags (6) to proposals of a user-defined order (7). With all the talk of changing things, the "leave well enough alone" crowd came out to play (8). At our deadline, the discussion looks to have stalled with no resolution. 1) http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/AppendixC.stx#3-16 2) http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zpt 3) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004210.html 4) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004248.html 5) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004249.html 6) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004241.html 7) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004226.html 8) http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2003-January/004244.html 9. ZOPE SOLUTIONS PROVIDERS LIST REACHES 100 As of this weekend, with the addition of TEKK from Copenhagen Denmark and Uptime Systeml?sungen GmbH from Vienna Austria, the Zope Solution Providers list now has 100 members. 10. CMF Portlets Reaches 0.5.1 I'm working on the next release of CMFPortlets, v 0.5.1, and the major new feature will be the interactive layout, thanks to OptionChooser 1.0, a DHTML layers switcher and chooser based on the Dynapi library, which I got to know by means of Tim Lynch, member of our community. OptionChooser is written by Dan George. CMFPortlets 0.5.1 will be released during the next week. An installer for Plone will be delayed until the release of its 1.0 version, due to remaining issues related to the behaviour of SkinnedFolders, which are the primitives for portlets. ZN: Ausum, can you give a sketch of what CMFPortlets does and what some possible, easy-to-grok applications could be? AS: Hi George, what a nice opportunity to write stuff. CMFPortlets was born from the need to offer personalized content to members, in the same way as many "my.something.com" portals, without paying the price of getting through any other processor in the middle. (No XML is needed here.) The key idea behind was to pack content into renderable container objects -the portlets, which rely on SkinnedFolders- so that they could use Zope's security and cataloguing machinery, while been able to be easily arranged in a presentation page. So, although portlets are indeed objects with a view method, we don't want nor need to watch them individually, but through a single global method, 'page_view', wich is callable from everywhere (from the root, by default). A portlet needs to be fully renderable before it gets its way to the presentation page, (aka 'workspace'). If the portlet uses CSS, it needs to contain its own styles, so that they don't disturb another portlet's look in the same workspace. (I'm working on a 'plugable' stylesheet concept so that the designer can define a general stylesheet for the site, and still allow portlets to look the way their authors wanted.). As portlets are containers, they can store anything from other portal types to just code, so that, if we store several documents, we'll see them rendered one below another; and if we store one or more methods calling things from different places, we'll see what those methods retrieve, one thing below the previous. A portlet's default view does render and show all what's inside it, but as it needs to provide itslef a graphical container to show off at the workspace, you can apply to it a "portlet_skin". (Typically boxes with a title.) Adding, renaming, deleting and setting the size properties of workspaces. Workspaces (or pages) aren't objects by themselves. Instead, 'page_view' is aimed to give you that impression, by rendering the portlets you have selected (which in their turn are a search to the catalog) in the place in page you've also selected, according to a variable living in portal_memberdata. Every time you add, delete, or rename a workspace, or change its size properties or add/delete a portlet, you retrieve and modify that variable, just that. The methods for the task live in 'portlets_garage'. Applications for portlets In its origin, portlets were meant just to provide content personalization for large B2C portals. I use it in combination with RDFSummary to display feeds in my local computer (which I used as demo for a few weeks), but in the corporate and intranet market, they can be used to allow an employee to have its own workspaces according to his role within the company. This same level of content discrimination on a personal basis is a must in large institutions like universities and even the government. There might be cases when the portlets selection is up to the end user, and there might be others where a person with the right role creates the workspaces and assigns them to the users. But the most important, from my perspective, is that it can be hooked to a personalization tool ('portal_personalization' maybe) that tracks a user's session and, based on a computer generated profile and his own needs, offers him a unique visit experience, all on the fly. I'm sorry I can't tell more within the context of this "impromptu". I hope I have covered at least some of your questions. I'll write a detailed how-to that you could quote for the next-to-tomorrow's release of Zope news. :) 11. NEW HOWTO'S zSSL SSL Server integrated to Zope http://www.zope.org/Members/nakagami/zSSL Upload, Insert and Retrieval of BLOBs http://www.zope.org/Members/murphy/MySQL-BLOBs How-To install Silva_0.9 on OSX http://www.zope.org/Members/rmoser/osx_silva Row level lock with ZMySQLDA on InnoDB causes error http://www.zope.org/Members/murphy/ZMySQLDA-locking Formulator_With_ZPT http://www.zope.org/Members/beno/HowTo/Formulator_With_ZPT Zope and SSL http://www.zope.org/Members/Ioan/ZopeSSL Using Dreamweaver with Zope, over WebDAV http://www.zope.org/Members/ike/dreamweaver/DAV Zope and Python on Mac OS X v. 10.1 and higher http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/docs/zope_osx Tips for multilingual websites, using DTML and Localizer http://www.zope.org/Members/CodeSyntax/DTML_Localizer Using Folders as Pages http://www.zope.org/Members/phill/FoldersAsPages Issue with importing all from MySQLdb http://www.zope.org/Members/murphy/MySQLdb-import Build a simple ZClass (CatalogAware, non-default Catalog, Folderish) http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/BuildSimpleZClass 12. PRODUCT RELEASES ZPhotoSlides 0.9 http://www.zope.org/Members/p3b/ZPhotoSlides/ZPhotoSlides-0.9.tar.gz Play Chess http://www.zope.org/Members/blacktav/chess/play_chess-0.0.zexp Silva-0.9.tgz http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/Silva/Silva-0.9.tgz RemoteUserFolder-0.4 http://www.zope.org/Members/djay/RemoteUserFolder/RemoteUserFolder-0.4.zip Zope Discussion Board http://www.zope.org/Members/rfrey74/zboard/ZopeBoard.zip PythonDB.zip http://www.zope.org/Members/rfrey74/pythonDB/PythonDB.zip IssueTrackers general masscontainer http://www.zope.org/Members/peterbe/IssueTrackerProduct/issuetrackers.zexp Unified HTML Document http://www.zope.org/Members/lheber/software/UnifiedHtmlDocument.tar.gz Silva-0.9.0.1 http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/Silva/Silva-0.9.0.1.tgz Gnowsys version 0.2 (development) http://www.zope.org/Members/nagarjuna/GNOWSYS/Gnowsys-0.2.tgz Formulator-1.3.1 http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/Formulator/Formulator-1.3.1.tgz ParsedXML-1.3.1 http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/ParsedXML/ParsedXML-1.3.1.tgz ZWiki-0.14.0 http://www.zope.org/Members/simon/ZWiki/ZWiki-0.14.0.tgz TextIndexNG-1.08 http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/TextIndexNG/TextIndexNG-1.08.tar.gz VarImage 1.0 (alpha) http://www.zope.org/Members/terry/VarImage/VarImage-1.0a.tgz XMLWidgets-0.8.4 http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/XMLWidgets/XMLWidgets-0.8.4.tgz BlogTopic-0.1a http://www.zope.org/Members/karl/BlogTopic/BlogTopic/BlogTopic-0.1a.tar.gz QuickLinks-0.1.6 http://www.zope.org/Members/peterbe/QuickLinks/QuickLinks-0.1.6.zip This week's Zope News was brought to you (in a hurry) by: Troy Farrell, Paul Everitt, Bakhtiar A Hamid, Jeffrey Shell, Ausum Studio and George Donnelly. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From jeffrey at cuemedia.com Tue Jan 28 01:16:27 2003 From: jeffrey at cuemedia.com (Jeffrey P Shell) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] workflow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <088A8382-3288-11D7-BA1A-000A2782F316@cuemedia.com> I'm sorry if I missed any prior discussion on this, but what is the current workflow, and what requirements do you have? On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 08:30 PM, george donnelly wrote: > i am quickly learning that the current workflow is really not > adequate. It > make it prohibitively difficult to assemble an issue of zope news. > > I'm thinking about setting up a CMF/plone site to manage this. Does > anyone > have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions on the matter? > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) > Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion > Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-News mailing list > Zope-News@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news From george at zettai.net Tue Jan 28 09:58:22 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] workflow In-Reply-To: <088A8382-3288-11D7-BA1A-000A2782F316@cuemedia.com> Message-ID: [Jeffrey P Shell commented on 1/28/03 1:16 AM] > I'm sorry if I missed any prior discussion on this, but what is the > current workflow, and what requirements do you have? hi jeff well the current one is that ideas and fragments and writeups are sent to this list. what are the needs? i think a basic plone-ish workflow within a cmf site wouold be good so people can post their own writeups and we can autogenerate the email and web versions of the news <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From zegginton at unitec.ac.nz Tue Jan 28 15:39:19 2003 From: zegginton at unitec.ac.nz (Zane Egginton) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Squishdot -> Plone Message-ID: A little off topic but has anyone moved from Squishdot to Plone? Any advice/experiences would be appreciated. -- Zane Egginton BSc. Lecturer Department of Landscape and Plant Science UNITEC Institute of Technology Private Bag 92025 Auckland, New Zealand email: zegginton@unitec.ac.nz Phone: +64 9 815 4321 ext 7857 Fax: +64 9 8154346 Chat Clients. ICQ: 7363687 -- Jabber: zedster -- Yahoo: MrZaneE From list at zettai.net Tue Jan 28 16:34:54 2003 From: list at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] Squishdot -> Plone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Zane Egginton commented on 1/28/03 3:39 PM] > A little off topic but has anyone moved from Squishdot to Plone? Any > advice/experiences would be appreciated. this is off-topic. please do not make off-topic posts. please take your query to the zope or plone list or to squishdot.org <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From george at zettai.net Wed Jan 29 10:29:35 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] call for writeups for Zope News Feb 3 2003 Message-ID: hi all Maybe if we release a shorter Zope News more often (every week) it'll be easier? worth a try no? So let's shoot for this Monday Feb 3. Please send in anything you've got. :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net From paul at eurozope.org Wed Jan 29 10:58:57 2003 From: paul at eurozope.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] call for writeups for Zope News Feb 3 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92E41700-33A2-11D7-B189-000393C2939A@eurozope.org> Hmm, if there's any way to wait a little longer, I can writeup the happenings in Paris. This will include: Plone 1.0 release party and Zope 3 UI sprint. --Paul On Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003, at 16:29 Europe/Paris, george donnelly wrote: > hi all > > Maybe if we release a shorter Zope News more often (every week) it'll > be > easier? worth a try no? > > So let's shoot for this Monday Feb 3. Please send in anything you've > got. :) > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) > Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion > Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-News mailing list > Zope-News@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-news > From george at zettai.net Wed Jan 29 11:09:18 2003 From: george at zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:44:24 2008 Subject: [zope-news] call for writeups for Zope News Feb 3 2003 In-Reply-To: <92E41700-33A2-11D7-B189-000393C2939A@eurozope.org> Message-ID: [Paul Everitt commented on 1/29/03 10:58 AM] > Hmm, if there's any way to wait a little longer, I can writeup the > happenings in Paris. This will include: Plone 1.0 release party and > Zope 3 UI sprint. > > --Paul It will probably come out late, but if not, we can always include it in the following issue <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net