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Asad Habib wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Paul, I appreciate all the time and effort you have invested in Zope and I
also appreciate the investment of other members. However, I don't feel
that any member has the right to be rude to another member because of
their seniority. In fact, one would expect a senior member to serve as a
role model for starters.
In the past I have been snubbed by several members for reasons unknown
to me(in particular, Jung and Maurer). These two seem to think that they
own the group and have insulted me as well as others on numerous
occasions. I appreciate their input and the time they have invested in
Zope, but does this give them the right to abuse others?
Also, on numerous occasions people have made assumptions about what I did
or did not do before posting a question to the group. I usually spend a
couple of hours trying to diagnose the problem myself before posting it to
the group. However, the solution is sometimes not evident. Does this give
other members the right to degrade me?
This is the point that Mike was trying to make. Thanks for listening Paul.
- Asad
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Paul Winkler wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:07:38PM -0400, Tiller, Michael (M.M.) wrote:
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This is such a bunch of bullshit. I am so tired of "the answer is out
there somewhere, why can't you find it yourself?" being the
justification for not helping people who ask reasonable questions. To
add insult to injury Asad was being quite courteous (e.g. he went so far
as to thank you for your initial response) and you guys just start
jumping all over him.
Please explain to me why the mailing list should be a
solution-of-last-result???
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<pre wrap="">It's not. But IMHO posting a perfectly valid solution in 10 minutes,
followed by a pointer to well-written documentation, and a hint
that the API is well documented in the source code (frequently it's
not so this is good to know!)... is a damn good response
and I don't think anybody should be faulted for that.
In this case I think the wrong guy got jumped on for a general
trend of "solve my problem for me" posts.
To Asad: I don't think you did anything wrong, but your second post
could have maybe been more informative (e.g. what's wrong with the
first solution? have you read the Sessions chapter in the online zope
book? Have you looked at the relevant parts of the API Reference?)
Chill out folks, this is nothing to fight about.
--
Paul Winkler
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Hi all<br>
I know these discusion not affected to me but you are flooding my mail
for nothing <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><span
class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span><span
class="moz-smiley-s4"><span> :-P </span></span><span
class="moz-smiley-s9"><span> :-* </span></span><span
class="moz-smiley-s14"><span> O:-) </span></span><br>
It's time to work, folks!!<br>
Everyone has right to ask anything including stupidity, disgusting and
so one but<br>
Everyone has right to not ask<br>
Sometimes we are lazy because we don't search enough, that's correct.
Perhaps would be better if we find some new and better ways of write
manuals and search tools. I prefer constructivity (but I know human is
very complex animal)<br>
In the other way, boys, everyone has a bad day. Respect is very
important and:<br>
1.- All you write here is public and time judge us<br>
2.- You are the inquire, relax yourself and be patient with someone
how probably save your professional life<br>
<br>
For that, I propose: LET'S WORK A LITTLE?<br>
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