maybe you can check iungo at<a href="http://iungo.org"> http://iungo.org</a> ?<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/3/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tim Nash</b> <<a href="mailto:thedagdae@gmail.com">thedagdae@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks
<br>> on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.<br>Do you mean that nobody actually writes an application without using<br>CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva? If that is the case then that explains my slow<br>rate of development. But I wonder if I want to continue with zope. It
<br>looks like a cool application server, I have written an application<br>(slowly) and I was hoping that I could see better examples of how to<br>write a complete application. There is very little on sourceforge.<br>I have read the "zope bible" cover to cover and I have read most of
<br>the zope book, but I admit that I haven't read the developer book. (<br>hate reading large amounts of text online). I guess that is my future.<br><br>As for a specific question. Here goes:<br> Could I please get a Zope application written by someone who has >
<br>2 years of Zope experience that uses several dtml or zpt pages, that<br>1. registers a user 2. collects data from a user and saves that data<br>to the zodb 3. manages the accumulation of data in the zodb? If it was<br>
developed outside the zmi (I hope) can you also send me the associated<br>test framework?<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>On 2/1/06, Dieter Maurer <<a href="mailto:dieter@handshake.de">dieter@handshake.de</a>> wrote:<br>> Tim Nash wrote at 2006-1-31 11:48 -0800:
<br>> > ...<br>> > I have "completed" my first zope<br>> >product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest<br>> >challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
<br>> >cgi.<br>><br>> Have you read the "Zope Developper Guide"?<br>><br>> It is something like a basic guide to product development in Zope 2.<br>><br>> > ...<br>> >I have downloaded many of the products from
<br>> ><a href="http://zope.org">zope.org</a> but they really don't tie everything togather.<br>><br>> "Products" are extensions that try to have very few dependancies.<br>> Therefore, they try not to tie other things together but use
<br>> only services of Zope (which is always available).<br>><br>> The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks<br>> on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.<br>><br>> >I am looking
<br>> >for something that covers login in users,<br>><br>> Look for the product "PAS" (PluggableAuthenticationService).<br>><br>> >building tables out of data<br>> >stored in zodb,<br>
><br>> There is a product "TinyTables" (or similar) for (as the name tells you)<br>> "tiny" tables.<br>><br>> Zope does not (yet) support large tables (it is not a relational database).<br>
> But, you can use the "ZCatalog" to search your objects.<br>> Read the "searching" chapter in the Zope Book (Online, 2.7 edition).<br>><br>> > ...<br>> >getters and setters for objects in the zodb,
<br>><br>> There is no difference in attribute access for persistent objects<br>> (those in the ZODB) and standard Python objects.<br>><br>> Read the Python tutorial.<br>><br>> >collecting a variable in one page and passing it on to another page
<br>><br>> You have the standard HTML facility (e.g. query string and hidden variables;<br>> function in "ZTUtils.Zope" help you in using them) and<br>> you have sessions (explained in the Zope Book; read it!)
<br>><br>> >where it modifies the data display, working with Sessions, etc. I<br>> >guess what I'm looking for is a template for a real application, not<br>> >for the individual pieces of functionality.
<br>><br>> I guess, you read the resources mentioned above ("Zope Developper Guide"<br>> and "Zope Book, 2.7 edition, online") and then come back with concrete<br>> questions.<br>><br>> Maybe, you then write the tutorial you are looking for now -- to
<br>> the profit of future new Zope users...<br>><br>> --<br>> Dieter<br>><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zope maillist - <a href="mailto:Zope@zope.org">Zope@zope.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope">
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