Max M wrote:<br><br>"Btw. I don't see any reason to use words like 'drivel' and 'bullshit'.<br><br>"It is rude and counterproductive. And I don't recall that I have been<br>rude on this list in general or to you specifically."
<br><br>Of course it is rude and counterproductive. It seems to be a feature on this list being rude and immature. Not from everyone of course, just from the minority. If certain 'personality types' get irritated when reading and replying to a community support list, they shouldn't be here. You've just got to ignore it and put it down to a 'lack of class' as another list member put it.
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/7/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jonathan</b> <<a href="mailto:dev10n1@magma.ca">dev10n1@magma.ca</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Tres Seaver" <<a href="mailto:tseaver@palladion.com">tseaver@palladion.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:zope@zope.org">zope@zope.org</a>><br>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:00 PM
<br>Subject: [Zope] Re: newbie -- creating a Product<br><br><br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>><br>> Max M wrote:<br>>> Jonathan skrev:<br>>><br>>>>> Well the problem is that Zope 2 was never easy for beginners either.
<br>>>>> And by now it is starting to get phased out for Zope 3.<br>>>><br>>>> This is the first I have heard about Zope 2 being phased out...<br>>><br>>> Well .. get used to it then ;-)
<br>>><br>>> Z2 will keep on being maintained until it is replaced by Z3. The goal of<br>>> the zope developers is not about keeping Z2 and Z3 running for as long<br>>> as possible. Only for as long as necessary.
<br>>><br>>> Z2 is still being maintained, and will be for a long time. But the<br>>> development is all moving in the direction of Z3.<br>>><br>>> Read the changelog of the latest Z2 releases. They are practially only
<br>>> about bugfixes and Z3 integration. Core Zope 2 development has<br>>> practically grinded to a halt. New developments are taking place in Zope<br>>> 3.<br>>><br>>><br>>> How is that not an outphasing?
<br>><br>> I would actually bet on Jim's "door #3" (Zope2 reabsorbing Zope3) as a<br>> more likely outcome. Five years later, the number of production<br>> installations of Zope3 compared to Zope2 is statistically insignificant;
<br>> the use of Zope3 technology within Zope2, however, is growing by leaps<br>> and bounds.<br><br>+1 I think this is a very realistic/feasible option. The installed base of<br>Zope 2 applications is too large for Zope 2 to disappear, and porting Zope 2
<br>applications to Zope 3 is not practical. I am hoping that "Door #3" is the<br>winning door!<br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zope maillist - <a href="mailto:Zope@zope.org">
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michael