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Of course!! That goes without saying, but I guess it does not get said
often enough. Thanks to all you hard working contributors who keep DTML
alive!!!<br>
-Allen<br>
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Tim Nash wrote:
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cite="mid:75c632a00811081642h39ed0cedy534033c75e833433@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">BTW, Andreas, It is probably extra work to maintain both
ZPT and DTML in each Zope release. We want you to know that we
appreciate the extra work and your skills.<br>
:)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Allen
Schmidt Sr. <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aschmidt@fredericksburg.com">aschmidt@fredericksburg.com</a>></span>
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+++++111111111<br>
We love zope on our site and continue to build new things almost daily
and all with DTML and ZSQL. Not a single line of ZPT anywhere within
our 7gb Data.fs that has been making us all money and employing many
folks for almost 8 years now as a newspaper website. AND in the
birthplace of Zope.... <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.Fredericksburg.com/Virginia/" target="_blank">www.Fredericksburg.com/Virginia/</a>
8^)<br>
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Cheers!<br>
-Allen<br>
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Well spoken. It is painful to see all the cheers for django templates
when dtml has been around longer and is just as good, maybe better.<br>
<br>
ZPT may also be fantastic but I haven't needed them yet. They seem to
be designed to solve web editing problems circa 2002.<br>
<br>
-Tim<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Kees de
Brabander <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cj.de.brabander@hccnet.nl" target="_blank">cj.de.brabander@hccnet.nl</a>></span>
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cb<br>
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Namens Garry<br>
Saddington<br>
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 november 2008 12:54<br>
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Onderwerp: Re: [Zope] Was Problem using nested dtml-in with zsql<br>
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On Saturday 08 November 2008 06:21, Andreas Jung wrote:<br>
> Any particular reason for using DTML instead of ZPT? DTML is dead.<br>
Firstly let me say that I do not wish to relight the ZPT vs DTML
argument,<br>
only to make a few points.<br>
<br>
I find this an extraordinary attitude coming from someone so important
to<br>
this community. I am sure there are many developments out there relying
on<br>
DTML and I am also sure that the developers are earning a living from
those<br>
developments. Will employers be happy that the technology used for their<br>
sites is "dead" ? Will they continue to pay these developers?<br>
<br>
Can you give one reason why DTML is bad that is not based on personal<br>
preference, presentation tools or the cognitive ability of developers to<br>
understand where variables are coming from? Does it not work if used<br>
properly?<br>
<br>
If someone comes to Zope and prefers to use DTML then let him, don't<br>
criticise instead of help him. Zope is a fantastic piece of software,<br>
however it is used, and its use should be encouraged.<br>
<br>
I prefer DTML and always have done and always will, no matter what this
list<br>
says and I am sure there are many more like me. DTML is available and is<br>
used, let's support it properly on this list.<br>
<br>
While I was learning Zope I had many questions, but I had to work most
of<br>
them out myself, not wanting to get lambasted again on this list for
using<br>
DTML.<br>
If help was more forthcoming I'm sure that I would have learned more
quickly<br>
rather than in relative isolation.<br>
<br>
Is the ZMI going to be re-written using ZPT?<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Garry<br>
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