<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Once upon a time there was a man walking down the street. He came upon two neighbors in their driveways. One guy was washing his Z-Honda and the other guy was working on his Z-MG-midget. The pedestrian said "Hey, I'm thinking of getting a car to carry groceries home from the market" The Z-Honda guy said, "Why don't you get one of these Z-Honda's they do the job and they are easy to own"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">The Z-MG guy was a mechanic and he liked working on his Z-MG. he said "That Honda guy is insane, you should get a Z-MG. It is much better than a big Z-Honda"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">The Z-Honda guy said " I used to like working on Z-MGs but now I just drive a Z-Honda. I rarely need to take it to the mechanic"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Then another neighbor came out the door. He was also a mechanic. In fact he worked at the z-car factory. "Hey" he said, "don't listen to that Honda guy, he doesn't know anything"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Now all along, the Honda guy was wondering what the heck was going on down out the z-car factory. You see the z-car factory has been producing many new models of z-cars but they haven't included many interesting new features. In fact the factory has been taking features out of the z-cars. The factory claims that we all have to make adjustments so that we can have z cars made out of some fantastic new material called 'z-components'. The factory has been promising wonderful things will be coming from this new way of making z cars. The cars will be more like this fantastic new z-car called a 'z3' series. But the Honda guy hasn't seen any of these z3 cars around town. It seems nobody is buying them and they have been manufactured for many, many years. Furthermore, the Honda guy took a z3-car for a test drive one time and it looked like a research project. Everything required special configuration and the interface looked weird. What is worse they took out dtml which was one of the Honda guys favorite features. Zclasses and TTW editing were also gone. The Honda guy saw a lot of stuff missing from the z3 but he still wanted to believe the factory was right about z-components. He still appreciated the factories efforts, but many years went by and nobody outside of the factory became excited about the z3 line. "So why are they taking us in a direction that nobody seems to want to go" the Honda guy thought. "and with every new release, things are shuffled around. The only people who can tell what will work are the mechanics who work on z-cars everyday"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Just then another neighbor , also a mechanic, came out the door and shouted " The honda guy is lazy. Don't listen to him"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">Eventually along came sheriff D in his patrol car. Now everybody knew that sheriff D was the brightest guy in town and if the z-car factory every does perfect their z-component manufacturing, the sheriff will be able to turn z-cars into whatever he wants to. "What is going on here" the sheriff said, "these guys are good mechanics. Their cars are wonderful. Why I once took one of these guys old cars and I converted it into a jet." Nobody doubted it. The sheriff had the skills. "There is no problem with these z-cars" he said.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">The Honda guy just sighed. "Well" he waved his hand at his mechanic neighbors. "I'm not crazy about the way these guys express their opinions but they have valid points of view. Me, I like my Honda, and if you go down to the market you will see a lot more Z-Hondas than Z-MGs"</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica">And with that he turned and went in his house. </p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dieter Maurer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dieter@handshake.de">dieter@handshake.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Andreas Jung wrote at 2009-3-28 14:13 -0500:<br>
> ...<br>
<div class="im">>Installing Plone in such a case is only the solution if one has no better<br>
>idea about doing things. The Filesystem Directory View functionality<br>
>is available out-of-the-box through CMF (which is much smaller than Plone).<br>
>There was also something like SkinnedFolder (I think) implementing<br>
>are similar functionality.<br>
<br>
</div>"SkinnedFolder" (at least if you mean<br>
"<a href="http://www.handshake.de/~dieter/pyprojects/zope/index.html#bct_sec_4.7" target="_blank">http://www.handshake.de/~dieter/pyprojects/zope/index.html#bct_sec_4.7</a>")<br>
makes "CMFCore"'s "SkinsTool" available (without the need to use<br>
"CMFDefault" or portal objects).<br>
<br>
"FileSystemSite"<br>
(<a href="http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/Products/FileSystemSite" target="_blank">http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/Products/FileSystemSite</a>)<br>
is the standalone "DirectoryView" functionality.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<font color="#888888">Dieter<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>