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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:<br>
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<pre> without citing the source </pre>
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My Apologies. Here it is. <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://slacy.com/blog/2011/02/why-im-unhappy-with-the-pyramid-web-framework/">http://slacy.com/blog/2011/02/why-im-unhappy-with-the-pyramid-web-framework/</a><br>
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I quote:<br>
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I’m having to read through the Pyramid source code trying to figure
out what the heck is going on with configuration. <br>
At it’s heart, the problem with Pyramid is also what makes it
great: They don’t prescribe any one way to do anything. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:<br>
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<pre>> Worse yet that code has been optimized making it even harder to understand.
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So much bullshit,</pre>
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Well for this one, I will just quote from<br>
"Defending Pyramid's Design"<br>
presumably written by ChrisM himself. <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/1.3-branch/designdefense.html">http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/1.3-branch/designdefense.html</a><br>
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"We optimize Pyramid aggressively. This comes at a cost: the core
code has sections that could be expressed more readably. As an
amelioration, we’ve commented these sections liberally."<br>
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And that is the author's presumably generous description. <br>
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So is ChrisM also a bullshitter? Then I am in good company. <br>
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I really do have the highest respect for ChrisM, and Pyramid. And I
do think it is a valid choice to use a tool that keeps your options
open. But there is also a valid choice to have a certain way of
doing things. There is a philosophical difference between Grok and
Pyramid, and it is important that someone points it out. I think of
Grok as more of a purist approach. <br>
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I like grok. <br>
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Thank you for encouraging a lively discussion. <br>
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