[BlueBream] New bluebream recipe

Jonah Crawford jonah.crawford at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 08:55:55 UTC 2012

Christopher. Just a few thoughts about bluebream, they're only my own perspective so take them or leave them. The ZTK is a set of packages which can be used independently of one another to solve a variety of difficult problem sets regarding application and framework development. Bluebream is the proof that they can all work together in a single stack and the documentation of how/why. In this way Bluebream is a reference implementation with modern packaging. You don't have to use the whole thing but you can if you wish and it will play nice with your app's distribution. Will there ever be thousands of scripters with blogs demonstrating how and why BB its so awesome to use on big complex projects ? I don't think so. But while bluebream outlines a very succinct pattern for building component applications it is not the only pattern, and probably not the best 'first' pattern to learn or use. A working implementation of the ZTK packages has a lot of value to the community that invested in them. If you don't already need them or don't know why you would I suggest pyramid which is built using these and other technologies and has a lot more of the developer base and scaffolding resources you might be looking for. Just my two cents..

Good luck with your project!

On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Christopher Lozinski wrote:

> Thank you for the new blue bream recipe.  Dated July 27, 2011
> When I go to the bluebream download page,
> http://download.zope.org/bluebream/
> The latest release is Jan 18, 2011.  That is a long time ago in internet
> time.  Coupled with this almost dead mailing list, it gives me the
> impression that bluebream is quite the dead package. 
> I presume that your blue bream recipe is a newer way of installing all
> the right packages and just works.  Is there anyway we can update the
> releases page to refer to your work?  That would correctly give people
> the impression that bluebream is keeping up with the changes driven by
> the Zope 4/Plone people, and the Pyramid people. 
> In any case, I think tomorrow I will try out your script, then enable
> the ZMI, and then get to work on the stuff that I want to do. 
> -- 
> Regards
> Christopher Lozinski
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