[Checkins] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/ Get protocol for last week ready, prepare proposal for this week.

[Christian Theune]

Log message for revision 113442:
  Get protocol for last week ready, prepare proposal for this week.
  

Changed:
  U   zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/index.rst
  U   zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100601.rst
  U   zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100608.rst
  A   zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100615.rst

-=-
Modified: zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/index.rst
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--- zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/index.rst	2010-06-14 06:43:49 UTC (rev 113441)
+++ zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/index.rst	2010-06-14 06:49:23 UTC (rev 113442)
@@ -5,6 +5,8 @@
 
     :maxdepth: 2
 
+    zope-dev-20100615
+    zope-dev-20100608
     zope-dev-20100601
     zope-dev-20100525
     zope-dev-20100518

Modified: zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100601.rst
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--- zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100601.rst	2010-06-14 06:43:49 UTC (rev 113441)
+++ zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100601.rst	2010-06-14 06:49:23 UTC (rev 113442)
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@
 Attendees
 ---------
 
-Charlie Clark, Hanno Schilling, Adam Groszer, Tres Seaver
+Charlie Clark, Hanno Schlichting, Adam Groszer, Tres Seaver
 
 Documentation
 -------------

Modified: zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100608.rst
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--- zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100608.rst	2010-06-14 06:43:49 UTC (rev 113441)
+++ zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100608.rst	2010-06-14 06:49:23 UTC (rev 113442)
@@ -5,6 +5,61 @@
 This is the agenda and summary for the weekly Zope developer meeting of
 Tuesday, 2010-06-08 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
 
+Summary
+=======
+
+The IRC log is available here:
+  http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-06-08.log.html#t2010-06-08T18:02:12
+
+Attendees
+---------
+
+Adam Groszer, Charlie Clark, Christian Theune
+
+
+KGS 3.4.1
+---------
+
+The KGS according to Adam only requires a version bump from release candidate
+to final. Along the way he updated the release process documentation for the
+KGS which can be found here: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/MakingARelease.
+
+Adam will poke Jens about getting a better index view for download.zope.org.
+
+
+Test-runners/nightly builds
+---------------------------
+
+The funding for a VM at Rackspace was granted by the ZF for a testing period
+of two months. Adam reported that MS announced the MSDN licenses to be
+available around 2010-06-14.
+
+The activation of the VM is on hold as long as Adam is working on the
+software that automatically creates binary eggs for releases (wineggbuilder).
+He will also write documentation on how the VM was set up.
+
+
+Meta
+----
+
+Charlie Clark is now officially the second person organizing the weekly
+meetings. Christian and Charlie will coordinate directly to keep it going.
+
+A quick question for how people feel about the meeting showed general
+approvement while also pointing out declining participation. One reason seems
+to be that we've been treading maintenance issues in the last weeks (KGS
+3.4.1, test runners, bug tracking, ...) which may not be a very attractive
+topic.
+
+Christian expressed he is somewhat uncomfortable opening up more issues in
+parallel as long as we don't find a better way of managing them. Christian
+will ask the Launchpad folks whether they know about a way to using LP for
+managing our agenda.
+
+Additionally we will switch to preparing the agenda on mondays and making them
+more of an invitation style so that we have a higher chance of people actually
+stating their topic wishes.
+
 Agenda
 ======
 
@@ -36,6 +91,7 @@
         - Documentation
         - Release scope
 
+
 - Bug tracking
     - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)
 
@@ -66,13 +122,3 @@
   future in the zope.* namespace.
 
 
-Summary
-=======
-
-The IRC log is available here:
-  XXX
-
-Attendees
----------
-
-XXX

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@@ -0,0 +1,80 @@
+==========
+2010-06-15
+==========
+
+This is the agenda and summary for the weekly Zope developer meeting of
+Tuesday, 2010-06-08 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
+
+Summary
+=======
+
+The IRC log is available here:
+  XXX
+
+Attendees
+---------
+
+XXX
+
+
+Agenda (draft)
+==============
+
+- Test runners / nightly builds
+    - Windows
+        - Compiler licenses (Tres, postponed until after 2010-06-14)
+        - Win egg builder (Adam)
+        - Documentation about VM setup (Adam)
+    - Supporting Python 2.7
+        - Needs help from the buildbots
+
+- Metrics for bug days
+    - Find a way to demonstrate what/how much work happened on a bug day.
+
+Ongoing issues
+--------------
+
+Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just
+need to follow up on them eventually.
+
+- ZTK status
+    - Towards a ZTK release
+        - Documentation
+        - Release scope
+
+
+- KGS 3.4.1 release
+    - Index view for download.zope.org
+
+- Bug tracking
+    - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)
+
+- Documentation
+    - Consolidate "floating" documentation into Sphinx/docs.zope.org
+
+- Releases
+    - How to find a good point when to cut a new release for a package for
+      which fixed bugs where registered (or changes have been made)? Any
+      automation possible to alert us when changes have been sitting around
+      unreleased for a while?
+
+
+- Meta
+    - Review meeting itself, maybe add extra 15 minutes for "meta" once a
+      month or every two months? (postponed until 2010-06-01)
+    - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints?
+      Other tool? Continue text files?)
+
+
+Topic proposals
+---------------
+
+- Chris McDonough: Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for
+  better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. 
+
+- Christian Theune: I'd like us to ponder how we can (in addition to the
+  housekeeping and cleanups we do) also move to do constructive work together
+  to expand the stuff that Zope packages (ZTK) is about. How do we go about
+  implementing new technologies together, like supporting HTML 5 in the
+  various parts? I'd like to start putting in new code in the foreseeable
+  future in the zope.* namespace.