[Checkins] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-201005 Minutes of meetings from 2010-05-04 and 2010-05-11

[Charlie Clark]

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+=============================
+Weekly Zope developer meeting
+=============================
+
+This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
+Tuesday, 2010-05-04 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from15:00 to 15:45 UTC.
+
+The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
+https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040493.html
+
+The IRC log is here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-04.log.html#t2010-05-04T18:00:13
+
+Present
+=======
+Charlie Clark (convenor in Theuni's absence), Tres Seaver, Hanno Schlichting, Christophe Combelles, Lennart Regebro, Adam Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Marius Gediminas, Leonardo Almeida, Chris Warner, Fred Drake
+
+#1 KGS Status
+=============
+3.4.1 is nearly ready for release - all tests pass. Some housekeeping still required for a beta release.
+=> Adam to check with Jens Vagelpohl on getting access to dowloads.zope.org
+
+#2 Test runners/nightly builds - Windows machines
+=================================================
+* 2 test failures on Python 2.4 & 2.5 from a total of 9404 tests
+* Still waiting to hear from Microsoft regarding the licences
+=> Tres will follow this up
+* Amazon image still required from Sidnei
+* Grok smoketest required
+=> To be taken up by the ZTK release team due to meet on Thursday
+
+#3 Deprecating older Python versions
+====================================
+4:1 votes in favour of officially dropping support for Python 2.4.
+However, after an impassioned plea by Fred Drake it was agreed that providing legacy support for Python 2.4 in ZTK 1.0.x would cost little. Problems are currently restricted to doctests and workarounds are known. No one should start new ZTK-based work with Python 2.4
+
+Support will be dropped completely from ZTK 1.1 on and in any case by 2010-12-31
+ZTK 1.1 will allow features that are not compatible with Python 2.4 and possibly also with 2.5
+
+#4 Bug day reminder
+===================
+The next bug day is 2010-05-19.
+Launchpad gardening and triaging will be required before then.
+
+You've been a wonderful audience! Next meeting will be 2010-05-11 17:00 UTC
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+=============================
+Weekly Zope developer meeting
+=============================
+
+This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
+Tuesday, 2010-05-11 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
+
+The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
+https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040543.html
+
+The IRC log is here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-11.log.html#t2010-05-11T18:03:06
+
+Present
+=======
+Charlie Clark (convenor), Christian Theune, Christophe Combelles, Adam Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Sidnei da Silva
+
+#1 KGS Status
+============
+3.4.1b1 has been released. Since last week all tests past and an announcement has been made to encourage testing as documentation is outstanding. Another release is planned this weekend.
+
+Adam to coordinate releases with Jens. More information on release procedure or the steps required so that the KGS can be released directly would be appreciated.
+
+Baiju suggested at least an index view for http://downloads.zope.com
+
+#2 Windows Builds
+=================
+Sidnei has made his Amazon image available to Adam for testing who will head this effort. It was agreed that Python 2.5 on Windows 64 will never be available for technical reasons.
+
+The Zope Foundation has agreed to cover the costs for the buildbots but requires someone to be officially responsible for this.
+=> Adam to coordinate with Christian Theune
+
+Still no feedback from Microsoft about the MSDN licences. From last week there still seemed to be some confusion about the validity of the licences for the proposed use.
+=> Continue to badger Microsoft about this and while we're at it - has anyone asked them about using Azure for the Windows buildbots?
+
+# 3 ZTK Status
+==============
+There is agreement in the steering committee and progress. Christophe has a tool for detecting upgrades http://bitbucket.org/ccomb/z3c.checkversions which will go into the Zope repository at some point.
+=> Check versions into repository and an issue tracker on Lauchpad
+
+#4 Bugday
+=========
+A reminder to all that there will be a bugday next week and all are invited to sign up http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100519
+Participation can be limited to reviewing bugs with patches.
+
+Christian Theune hopes to do some triaging at the weekend.
+=> More triaging required
+
+#5 Housekeeping
+===============
+The minutes of all meetings will be archived at svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/doc/source as per Hanno's recent suggestion.
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