[Checkins] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/ Clean up zope-dev summaries, update today's agenda, wire up the sphinx parts.
Christian Theune
ct at gocept.com
Tue May 18 08:30:34 EDT 2010
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proposals/index
process/index
codingstyle/index
+ zope-dev/index
releaseteam/index
steeringgroup/index
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+Weekly Zope developer meetings
+==============================
+
+.. toctree::
+
+ :maxdepth: 2
+
+ irc_summary-20100407
+ zope-dev-20100504
+ zope-dev-20100511
+ zope-dev-20100518
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+==========
+2010-04-06
+==========
+
+This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
+Tuesday, 2010-04-06 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 3pm to 3:30pm (UTC).
+
+The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
+https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-April/039981.html
+
+The IRC logs are located here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-04-06.log.html#t2010-04-06T18:00:01
+
+Tres Seaver was filling in for Christian Theune as conventer due to illness.
+
+
+Zope2 release manager
+---------------------
+
+The community welcomes Hanno Schlichting as the new release manager for
+Zope2. In addition to closing / responding to dozens of bugs in the past
+week, Hanno has also proposed a roadmap for Zope 2.13 and has made the
+release tag for Zope 2.12.4.
+
+
+Porting packages to Zope3
+-------------------------
+
+Lennart Regebro reported that he has branches waiting for the first three
+"most depended-on" ZTK packages (``zope.event``, ``zope.interface``, and
+``zope.testing``). After considering naming the new releases ``4.0``,
+the consensus was to just name them the next "normal" major release, as
+long as there are no backward-incompatible API changes.
+
+Some discussion of the general problem of doctests breaking due to exception
+formatting led to a suggestion from Jim Fulton that we implement a testing
+API similar the ``unittest.TestCase.assertRaises``, but with the additional
+feature that it returns the exception value, to permit further assertions
+about the state of that object.
+
+
+Buildbots
+---------
+
+No one had new updates on the topic. Sidnei da Silva reported that he
+is close to reconstructing the script used to build ``win64`` images for
+Amazon EC.
+
+Tres Seaver reported that his request to Microsoft for dontaed VisualStudio
+licnese to support builds / tests of ``zope.*`` packages on Windows
+for Python 2.4 and 2.5 is still stalled.
+
+Baiju M noted that Rackspace can also support Windows in its cloud:
+http://www.rackspacecloud.com/ .
+
+
+Tracker status
+--------------
+
+Charlie Clark reported that he had gotten his script for checking
+Launchpad for "languishing" bugs working. He posted that package to
+``zope-dev at zope.org`` during the meeting.
+
+
+Bug Days
+--------
+
+After some discussion, Adam Groszer and Baiju M agreed to widen their planned
+``bluebream`` sprint to include more general ZTK issues. The sprint,
+originally set for Saturday, 2010-04-10, was rescheduled to Saturday,
+2010-04-24. Charlie Clark asked for announcments, plus volunteers willing
+to help mentor new exterminators during the bug day. Adam and Baiju will
+organize a web page for coordinating the bug day activity, and send out
+the announcements.
+
+
+Carried Over
+------------
+
+- Resurrecting the "sprint schedule" page,
+ http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SprintSchedule
+
+- A more general calendar (e.g., for Zope / Python related conferences,
+ symposia, sprints, etc.)
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-=============================
-Weekly Zope developer meeting
-=============================
-
-This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
-Tuesday, 2010-04-06 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 3pm to 3:30pm (UTC).
-
-The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
-https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-April/039981.html
-
-The IRC logs are located here:
-http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-04-06.log.html#t2010-04-06T18:00:01
-
-Tres Seaver was filling in for Christian Theune as conventer due to illness.
-
-
-Zope2 release manager
----------------------
-
-The community welcomes Hanno Schlichting as the new release manager for
-Zope2. In addition to closing / responding to dozens of bugs in the past
-week, Hanno has also proposed a roadmap for Zope 2.13 and has made the
-release tag for Zope 2.12.4.
-
-
-Porting packages to Zope3
--------------------------
-
-Lennart Regebro reported that he has branches waiting for the first three
-"most depended-on" ZTK packages (``zope.event``, ``zope.interface``, and
-``zope.testing``). After considering naming the new releases ``4.0``,
-the consensus was to just name them the next "normal" major release, as
-long as there are no backward-incompatible API changes.
-
-Some discussion of the general problem of doctests breaking due to exception
-formatting led to a suggestion from Jim Fulton that we implement a testing
-API similar the ``unittest.TestCase.assertRaises``, but with the additional
-feature that it returns the exception value, to permit further assertions
-about the state of that object.
-
-
-Buildbots
----------
-
-No one had new updates on the topic. Sidnei da Silva reported that he
-is close to reconstructing the script used to build ``win64`` images for
-Amazon EC.
-
-Tres Seaver reported that his request to Microsoft for dontaed VisualStudio
-licnese to support builds / tests of ``zope.*`` packages on Windows
-for Python 2.4 and 2.5 is still stalled.
-
-Baiju M noted that Rackspace can also support Windows in its cloud:
-http://www.rackspacecloud.com/ .
-
-
-Tracker status
---------------
-
-Charlie Clark reported that he had gotten his script for checking
-Launchpad for "languishing" bugs working. He posted that package to
-``zope-dev at zope.org`` during the meeting.
-
-
-Bug Days
---------
-
-After some discussion, Adam Groszer and Baiju M agreed to widen their planned
-``bluebream`` sprint to include more general ZTK issues. The sprint,
-originally set for Saturday, 2010-04-10, was rescheduled to Saturday,
-2010-04-24. Charlie Clark asked for announcments, plus volunteers willing
-to help mentor new exterminators during the bug day. Adam and Baiju will
-organize a web page for coordinating the bug day activity, and send out
-the announcements.
-
-
-Carried Over
-------------
-
-- Resurrecting the "sprint schedule" page,
- http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SprintSchedule
-
-- A more general calendar (e.g., for Zope / Python related conferences,
- symposia, sprints, etc.)
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+==========
+2010-05-04
+==========
+
+This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
+Tuesday, 2010-05-04 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from15:00 to 15:45 UTC.
+
+The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
+https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040493.html
+
+The IRC log is here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-04.log.html#t2010-05-04T18:00:13
+
+Present
+=======
+
+Charlie Clark (convenor in Theuni's absence), Tres Seaver, Hanno Schlichting, Christophe Combelles, Lennart Regebro, Adam Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Marius Gediminas, Leonardo Almeida, Chris Warner, Fred Drake
+
+KGS Status
+==========
+
+3.4.1 is nearly ready for release - all tests pass. Some housekeeping still required for a beta release.
+
+- Adam to check with Jens Vagelpohl on getting access to dowloads.zope.org
+
+Test runners/nightly builds - Windows machines
+==============================================
+
+- 2 test failures on Python 2.4 & 2.5 from a total of 9404 tests
+- Still waiting to hear from Microsoft regarding the licences (Tres will follow this up)
+- Amazon image still required from Sidnei
+- Grok smoketest required (To be taken up by the ZTK release team due to meet on Thursday)
+
+Deprecating older Python versions
+=================================
+
+4:1 votes in favour of officially dropping support for Python 2.4.
+
+However, after an impassioned plea by Fred Drake it was agreed that providing
+legacy support for Python 2.4 in ZTK 1.0.x would cost little. Problems are
+currently restricted to doctests and workarounds are known. No one should
+start new ZTK-based work with Python 2.4
+
+Support will be dropped completely from ZTK 1.1 on and in any case by
+2010-12-31. ZTK 1.1 will allow features that are not compatible with Python 2.4
+and possibly also with 2.5
+
+Bug day reminder
+================
+
+The next bug day is 2010-05-19.
+
+Launchpad gardening and triaging will be required before then.
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-=============================
-Weekly Zope developer meeting
-=============================
-
-This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
-Tuesday, 2010-05-04 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from15:00 to 15:45 UTC.
-
-The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
-https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040493.html
-
-The IRC log is here:
-http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-04.log.html#t2010-05-04T18:00:13
-
-Present
-=======
-Charlie Clark (convenor in Theuni's absence), Tres Seaver, Hanno Schlichting, Christophe Combelles, Lennart Regebro, Adam Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Marius Gediminas, Leonardo Almeida, Chris Warner, Fred Drake
-
-#1 KGS Status
-=============
-3.4.1 is nearly ready for release - all tests pass. Some housekeeping still required for a beta release.
-=> Adam to check with Jens Vagelpohl on getting access to dowloads.zope.org
-
-#2 Test runners/nightly builds - Windows machines
-=================================================
-* 2 test failures on Python 2.4 & 2.5 from a total of 9404 tests
-* Still waiting to hear from Microsoft regarding the licences
-=> Tres will follow this up
-* Amazon image still required from Sidnei
-* Grok smoketest required
-=> To be taken up by the ZTK release team due to meet on Thursday
-
-#3 Deprecating older Python versions
-====================================
-4:1 votes in favour of officially dropping support for Python 2.4.
-However, after an impassioned plea by Fred Drake it was agreed that providing legacy support for Python 2.4 in ZTK 1.0.x would cost little. Problems are currently restricted to doctests and workarounds are known. No one should start new ZTK-based work with Python 2.4
-
-Support will be dropped completely from ZTK 1.1 on and in any case by 2010-12-31
-ZTK 1.1 will allow features that are not compatible with Python 2.4 and possibly also with 2.5
-
-#4 Bug day reminder
-===================
-The next bug day is 2010-05-19.
-Launchpad gardening and triaging will be required before then.
-
-You've been a wonderful audience! Next meeting will be 2010-05-11 17:00 UTC
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+==========
+2010-05-11
+==========
+
+This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
+Tuesday, 2010-05-11 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
+
+The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
+https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040543.html
+
+The IRC log is here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-11.log.html#t2010-05-11T18:03:06
+
+Present
+=======
+
+Charlie Clark (convenor), Christian Theune, Christophe Combelles, Adam
+Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Sidnei da Silva
+
+KGS Status
+==========
+
+3.4.1b1 has been released. Since last week all tests past and an announcement
+has been made to encourage testing as documentation is outstanding. Another
+release is planned this weekend.
+
+Adam to coordinate releases with Jens. More information on release procedure
+or the steps required so that the KGS can be released directly would be
+appreciated.
+
+Baiju suggested at least an index view for http://downloads.zope.com
+
+Windows Builds
+==============
+
+Sidnei has made his Amazon image available to Adam for testing who will head
+this effort. It was agreed that Python 2.5 on Windows 64 will never be
+available for technical reasons.
+
+The Zope Foundation has agreed to cover the costs for the buildbots but
+requires someone to be officially responsible for this. (Adam to coordinate
+with Christian Theune)
+
+Still no feedback from Microsoft about the MSDN licences. From last week there
+still seemed to be some confusion about the validity of the licences for the
+proposed use. (Continue to badger Microsoft about this and while we're at it
+- has anyone asked them about using Azure for the Windows buildbots?)
+
+ZTK Status
+==========
+
+There is agreement in the steering committee and progress. Christophe has a
+tool for detecting upgrades http://bitbucket.org/ccomb/z3c.checkversions which
+will go into the Zope repository at some point. (Check versions into
+repository and an issue tracker on Lauchpad)
+
+Bugday
+======
+
+A reminder to all that there will be a bugday next week and all are invited to
+sign up http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100519 Participation can be limited
+to reviewing bugs with patches.
+
+Christian Theune hopes to do some triaging at the weekend, but there's more
+triaging required.
+
+Housekeeping
+============
+
+The minutes of all meetings will be archived at
+svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/doc/source as per Hanno's recent
+suggestion.
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-=============================
-Weekly Zope developer meeting
-=============================
-
-This is the summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which happened on
-Tuesday, 2010-05-11 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
-
-The agenda for this meeting is available in the mailing list archives:
-https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-May/040543.html
-
-The IRC log is here:
-http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-05-11.log.html#t2010-05-11T18:03:06
-
-Present
-=======
-Charlie Clark (convenor), Christian Theune, Christophe Combelles, Adam Groszer, Baiju Muthukadan, Sidnei da Silva
-
-#1 KGS Status
-============
-3.4.1b1 has been released. Since last week all tests past and an announcement has been made to encourage testing as documentation is outstanding. Another release is planned this weekend.
-
-Adam to coordinate releases with Jens. More information on release procedure or the steps required so that the KGS can be released directly would be appreciated.
-
-Baiju suggested at least an index view for http://downloads.zope.com
-
-#2 Windows Builds
-=================
-Sidnei has made his Amazon image available to Adam for testing who will head this effort. It was agreed that Python 2.5 on Windows 64 will never be available for technical reasons.
-
-The Zope Foundation has agreed to cover the costs for the buildbots but requires someone to be officially responsible for this.
-=> Adam to coordinate with Christian Theune
-
-Still no feedback from Microsoft about the MSDN licences. From last week there still seemed to be some confusion about the validity of the licences for the proposed use.
-=> Continue to badger Microsoft about this and while we're at it - has anyone asked them about using Azure for the Windows buildbots?
-
-# 3 ZTK Status
-==============
-There is agreement in the steering committee and progress. Christophe has a tool for detecting upgrades http://bitbucket.org/ccomb/z3c.checkversions which will go into the Zope repository at some point.
-=> Check versions into repository and an issue tracker on Lauchpad
-
-#4 Bugday
-=========
-A reminder to all that there will be a bugday next week and all are invited to sign up http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100519
-Participation can be limited to reviewing bugs with patches.
-
-Christian Theune hopes to do some triaging at the weekend.
-=> More triaging required
-
-#5 Housekeeping
-===============
-The minutes of all meetings will be archived at svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/doc/source as per Hanno's recent suggestion.
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+==========
+2010-05-18
+==========
+
+This is the agenda and summary for the weekly Zope developer meeting of
+Tuesday, 2010-05-18 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 15:00 to 15:30 UTC.
+
+Agenda
+======
+
+- Windows builds
+ - AMI (Sidnei, Adam)
+ - Compiler licenses (Tres)
+ - Amazon funding (Adam, Christian Theune)
+
+- Bug tracking
+ - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)
+
+- Preparing for Bugday 2010-05-19
+
+
+Ongoing issues
+--------------
+
+Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just
+need to follow up on them eventually.
+
+- KGS 3.4.1 release
+ - Document release procedure (Adam)
+ - Index view for downloads.zope.com
+
+- ZTK status
+ - Towards a ZTK release
+ - Documentation
+ - Release scope
+
+- Test runners / nightly builds
+ - Windows machines
+
+- Meta
+ - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints?
+ Other tool? Continue text files?)
+ - Find second person to run the weekly meetings
+
+
+Topic proposals
+---------------
+
+- Lennart: Of course what applies to Hanno should apply to others making
+ releases of packages maintained by the Zope Toolkit project as well. I think
+ the ZTK leadership should figure out some kind of guidelines for this that
+ people can follow.
+
+- Chris McDonough: Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for
+ better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing.
+
+- Christian Theune: I'd like us to ponder how we can (in addition to the
+ housekeeping and cleanups we do) also move to do constructive work together
+ to expand the stuff that Zope packages (ZTK) is about. How do we go about
+ implementing new technologies together, like supporting HTML 5 in the
+ various parts? I'd like to start putting in new code in the foreseeable
+ future in the zope.* namespace.
+
+Summary
+=======
+
+The IRC log is available here:
+http://zope3.pov.lt
+
+XXX will be filled in after the meeting.
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-=============================
-Weekly Zope developer meeting
-=============================
-
-These are the agenda and summary of the weekly Zope developer meeting which
-happened on Tuesday, 2010-05-18 on #zope at irc.freenode.org from 15:00 to 15:30
-UTC.
-
-The IRC log is here:
-http://zope3.pov.lt
-
-Agenda
-======
-
-
-
-
-Topic proposals
----------------
-
-* Lennart: Of course what applies to Hanno should apply to others making
- releases of packages maintained by the Zope Toolkit project as well. I think
- the ZTK leadership should figure out some kind of guidelines for this that
- people can follow.
-
-Summary
-=======
-
-Present
--------
-
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