[Committers] Why this list?

[Tres Seaver]

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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Why do we have this list? I don't see any practical use for it, to be
> honest. At least not right now. All it does is
> 
> * keep traffic from the much better known foundation list (which isn't
> that much, really)
> 
> * keep the general public in the unknown regarding some ZF issues (the
> board election, for example). I see no reason why we should cover
> ourself with secrecy.
> 
> * keep even committers from being informed properly if they're not
> subscribed. Jim has to subscribe people explicitly because you can't
> just sign up; in a few cases he forgot to sign people up, which is
> excusable, but a problem for people when they miss thing like election.
> 
> I don't think anyone on the general foundation list would be bothered
> with the additional traffic of this list. In fact, I think they would
> just as well like to have known that we're voting and that we've elected
> Martijn. Even if not all messages concern them, there's no reason for
> red tape. As said, there are no secrets in any of this.

My take is that the list represents a distinct "community of interest"
within the foundation:  there may be items which need discussion among
committers, but which are not relevant to (all) non-committer members.

Notification that the election period was opened / closed, for instance,
would not (necessarily) have been interesting to anyone not an elector.
The *result*, of course, is intersting to the foundation as a whole.

- -1 to removing the list.  The "lumpers" should get better mail clients,
and figure out how to folder the mail as they like. ;)  (All my mail
from both lists ends up in the same folder automagically, for instance).

+0 to allowing for non-committers to "audit" the list in some way,
preferably without requiring manual intervention by the list serf.


Tres.
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