[Grok-dev] Re: Working towards a 0.9 release

[Philipp von Weitershausen]

Tim Terlegård wrote:
>> Thanks for volunteering to set up such a site. I think this will be a  
>> lot of work. It clearly shouldn't be our top-priority. For 0.9 a  
>> simple static page should definitely suffice, for 1.0 we can then  
>> think about making something fancier.
> 
> I would agree.
> 
> Would it be too much work to actually use grok for this?

Dunno, I don't think a self-hosted grok website is absolutely necessary, 
though it'd be nice at some point.

Perhaps we can get grokwiki to a state where it's actually useful soon 
enough. The rest (pages, newsitems, downloads) should be simple enough 
to do in grok (heck, who needs a downloads section if we have the 
cheeseshop :)).

If anybody wants to give this a shot, feel free to do so. I don't think 
it'll be relevant for 0.9 or even 1.0, so this can be a long-term 
project. Improving Grokwiki would be a first step. For pages/news items, 
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/wc.textpage might be some inspiration. 
I use this on worldcookery.com. In the end, it'd be nice to have a 
buildout that would deploy the grok website. That way we can all play 
with it locally till it goes online.

> Isn't 1.0 going
> to have some form of ZMI? Wouldn't that be ok for adding content?

grok already has a simplistic admin interface. I suppose it will be 
enhanced a little for application setup, maintenance and possibly 
database browsing, but that's it. It will not be a content management 
interface. The Zope 2 ZMI does too much and the Zope 3 "ZMI" doesn't 
know what it wants to be.

Applications that want to manage content should provide views accordingly.


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