[Grok-dev] Re: an 'about grok' document

Philipp von Weitershausen philipp at weitershausen.de
Sat Mar 24 05:22:45 EDT 2007

Kevin Teague wrote:
>> Thanks! I would still suggest we take the first section of about_grok 
>> and replicate it on the home page. I believe this is a better 
>> introduction to Grok than what's currently in the first section of the 
>> home page, as it doesn't go into Zope 3 right away (as we took pains 
>> to avoid for the 'about grok' page :).
> I was just working on this suggestion after I noticed it in the original 
> email, when I got this one. The Home page intro text has now been updated.
> I've put the Grok Campfire image on the About page, added a sidebar with 
> a quote and the Zope 3 logo, and added a link to the Zope 3 wiki for the 
> first mention of Zope 3.


> This puts the About page a bit out-of-sync with SVN. Three ways to fix 
> this:
>  1. I need to get access to svn.zope.org. Do I just fill out the contrib 
> agreement and mail it in?

Yes. You can also fax it to ZC or even send a scanned copy to jim at zope.org.

>  2.  Someone with SVN access backports my changes ...
>  3. I work on a dynamically generated Grok site, where the content is 
> stored in the ZODB :)
> One other change I would like to make soon to the site that would put us 
> out-of-sync with SVN would be break the existing URLs. Right now we have:
> http://grok.zope.org/
> http://grok.zope.org/about.html
> http://grok.zope.org/tutorial.html
> As we add more content to the site, those URLs are likely to be pain to 
> work with. I suggest moving to:
> http://grok.zope.org/
> http://grok.zope.org/about/overview
> http://grok.zope.org/docs/starter-tutorial

I don't really care about that, but what I *would* love to see is that 
we maintain the web site in SVN (e.g. under /grok/www next to 
grok/trunk). That way we not only have a backup but it's also easier to 
track and perform changes.

It would be great if you, Kevin, became a Zope contributor for this and 
other contributions to Grok *wink* :)

>> Talking about images, I'm thinking about a way to illustrate the 
>> tutorial. We would need a bunch of small Grok images in various poses 
>> relevant to the tutorial. What those poses should be I'm still not 
>> clear about. Guess we need to go through the tutorial and look at 
>> places where a little Grok in some pose would make sense. Any ideas?
> I'd really like to see more *real* Grok artwork :)
> On the About page I was thinking about an image for "Grok is Agile" 
> where Grok is leaping onto a wooly mammoth. Grok images for the tutorial 
> would be great too. Some ideas:
>  "Setting up grokproject" - Grok building his club, maybe pounding 
> spikes into it
>  "A View for a Model" - Grok looking at his reflection at his fishing hole
> "Storing data" - Grok storing mammoth meat in a cache

Hahaha, sounds great. I wish I could contribute here but I'm a poor 
artist. By the way, there's also a "ME GROK SMASH" action shot (in which 
Grok uses his big club to smash something) that hasn't been used yet. I 
think Martijn has it.

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