[Grok-dev] Re: Skinning/themeing

Martijn Faassen faassen at startifact.com
Mon May 21 13:41:23 EDT 2007

Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On 5/20/07, Martin Aspeli <optilude at gmx.net> wrote:
>> Are you saying that you don't envisage "new" developers picking up Grok
>> and using it to build an application from scratch?
> Nope.

I definitely disagree with this. I want Grok to be a framework that 
people can pick up and build an application from scratch with. Otherwise 
we have the exact same toolbox problem Zope 3 does (I see this giant box 
with 5000 tools in it, I have no idea what to do!).

>> This is very different from how I see (and would use) Grok - to me, Grok
>> is something I could use to build a standalone web app (i.e. if I'm not
>> working on Plone) quickly, using the giant toolbox that Zope 3 provides
>> as and when I have a need.
> Sure, but then you have to make these decisions yourself, what
> template language to use, what workflow engine to use, stick with
> Zope3 schemas or use something else, and so on.

I want there to be recommended solutions for me. I want there to be 
default solutions for me. I want to be able to opt out of those, but if 
I don't know or don't care, I want something to guide me.



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