[Grok-dev] Re: Admin UI name change suggestion

[Martijn Faassen]

Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
[snip]
>> It's still one extra click but less confusion about installation. It 
>> might actually help beginners to see the application as a name in the 
>> URI: http://localhost:8080/myapp as opposed to http://localhost:8080, 
>> as that makes clear that the app object is an object like all others.
> 
> That last sentence is very interesting. grok.Application things are just 
> yet another object in the hierarchy that are traversed over. They're not 
> really special, which is probably what's causing the confusion in the 
> first place: Why is the "application" a thing that's traversed over?
> 
> Perhaps we should consider giving grok.Application a better name that 
> explains what it really is. It could be as simple as calling it 
> grok.ApplicationRoot, indicating it's some sort of root *object* in the 
> object hierarchy.

It's an interesting consideration, but I'm not sure it's only the 
application root conceptually. Right now, it's also the installation 
point - the object that gets created. Even if you create this object 
automatically it will remain an installation point. When you create it, 
presumably the application is also set up in such a state to be usable 
in some form.

If we implement the grok.title() and grok.description() directive 
proposal, you'd expect that you'd see the title and description of the 
application the UI. The grok.Application subclass seems to be the best 
place to stick this information.

grok.Application by itself isn't implying it's necessarily a root of 
anything; it's a mixin class and it's up to the person who writes the 
application to make it some form of containerish thing.

Regards,

Martijn