[Grok-dev] Re: The shared hosting story, in print anyone?

Sebastian Ware sebastian at urbantalk.se
Sun Jan 27 11:37:02 EST 2008

Ok, I can understand that the concept of traditional "shared hosting"  
is not applicable to Grok/Zope. But the problem will still be there.  
Regardless of approach, supporting a feasible solution is likely to  
increase adoption. Maybe we can define a simple "gold standard"  
hosting product that hosting companies can choose to adopt.

Mvh Sebastian

26 jan 2008 kl. 22.55 skrev Martijn Faassen:

> Tres Seaver wrote:
> [snip]
>> It isn't that I'm *hostile* to the idea of running Zope-based apps on
>> such boxes:  I'm just skeptical.
> I agree that this one is tough and it's not likely we can fix this  
> in the Zope world in the foreseeable future. At this point I don't  
> think we can do better than Rails in the Zope world and we shouldn't  
> give wrong impressions.
> That said, I think even investigating making this better is useful:  
> it may make our life better in some other ways even if we don't  
> reach the goal of making shared hosting easier.
> I did follow the original Ruby on Rails discussion. I think Ian  
> Bicking's observations are useful:
> http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/01/12/what-php-deployment-gets-right/
> Perhaps there is some potential in having mod_wsgi running isolated  
> ZEO client processes and having it kill them off painlessly in case  
> of problems. It'll still be less manageable than PHP, where there is  
> no long-running application server process to worry about at all,  
> and thus, as far as I understand, not much need to kill anything off  
> in case of problems.
> Regards,
> Martijn
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