[Grok-dev] Python UK meeting and Django

Kevin Smith kevin at mcweekly.com
Thu May 8 15:54:34 EDT 2008

Noah Gift wrote:
>     They were successful due to brilliant marketing (kudos man), a
>     mostly-developed python answer to RoR, a good sense of timing and
>     strong community development skills.
> I agree, and if you doubt this truth, then read Four Hour Work Week. 
>  Anyone can create their own image, and expertise in weeks, but it 
> requires tenacious and persistent marketing.  They, or the entity, 
> needs to write many articles, give talks, etc.  Unfortunately, often 
> the very smartest people suck the most at engaging in this type of 
> necessary behavior.
>     Perhaps grok is being too nice. GROK SMASH YET ANOTHER ROR RIPOFF.
>     </rant>
>     Of course a real advantage for DJango is that they are AppEngine
>     ready. Interestingly the Datastore is much more akin to the ZODB
>     than it is to an RDB.
> I have been playing with the Datastore and like it quite a bit.  I 
> would love to see a version of Grok that just uses the Datastore as 
> option.  I would really, really like Grok then.  I know we have a 
> "Global Sprint" coming at the end of May, and also some people that 
> use Grok will be attending the Google I/O event.  Anyone want to try...?

Yup, I'm game. The 1,000 file limit is pretty tough. A did a basic test 
doing an install of ore.wsgiref, and ended up with 3000+ files without 
including zcml.

My mini-strategy is to
* get easy_install zope.component
* get martian working
* implement custom traversal
* fork grok  :) doh!

After looking at the Datastore it may yet  be possible to do 
object-based publishing by replacing persistence. I'll have to catch up 
with you at Google I/O.

Kevin Smith
Monterey County Weekly
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