[Grok-dev] Grok Wikipedia Entry Marked As Advertisement

Sebastian Ware sebastian at urbantalk.se
Tue Jan 20 10:59:42 EST 2009

Maybe one could add some more references and rephrase "a step forward  
to" and write something like:

"Grok removes the extensive configuration required in Zope 3, making  
it more similar to other popular web frameworks such as TurboGears,  
Pylons and Django."

And I think one should list useful component that are incorporated in  


Mvh Sebastian

20 jan 2009 kl. 16.12 skrev Paul Wilson:

> 2009/1/20 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
>> "This way Grok is a step forward to popular Python web frameworks  
>> like
>> TurboGears, Pylons and Django"
>> That's the kind of wording that I regularly zap as plone.net  
>> reviewer.
>> "We're the leading provider of plone in country XYZ" makes plone.net
>> (the neutral resource) say that you're better than the other  
>> companies.
>> Likewise, the wikipedia entry makes wikipedia say that grok is better
>> than pylons and django. So I can imagine somebody regarding it as  
>> partial.
> I'm not sure I agree with you there. It makes the comparative
> judgement in favour of "Python code and conventions" over "strictly
> explicit, XML based configuration" by claiming that it is a "step
> forward". If anything, it's claiming that Grok is a peer of Pylons and
> Django in this respect, although I would agree that this point could
> be better expressed.
> Paul
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