[ZDP] OpenContent issues
Mon, 17 May 1999 14:30:23 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> > > So, hypothetically lets say that O'Reilly publishes
> > > "The Zen of Zope" based on the work of the ZDP group.
I just got back from a weeklong conference, so the first thing I did when
I got to my computer is to delete 95% of the emails in my inbox. I just
noticed that there was a discussion re: a Zope book.
Let me say a couple of things re: Zope & books, as a Zope newbie but
supporter, and (more relevantly), as the co-author of Learning Python
(which, BTW, mentions Zope twice =).
1) At least one person at O'Reilly with a fair bit of influence (Frank
Willison, editor-in-chief) is aware of, and interested in, Zope. He
was at IPC when Paul announced the OpenSourcing of Principia, and he's
a keen observer of these issues. Other folks related to ORA also pay
attention to Zope.
2) I got the vague impression from some DC folks that there were thoughts
a long time ago re: a Zope book. I don't have any specifics. Ask
someone with a @digicool.com address =).
3) On the topic of control -- I can't speak for all publishers or all book
projects, but O'Reilly's purpose is to provide editorial *assistance*
to the most technically competent writers in a given field. They will
point out style and writing issues at a variety of scales, but they
aren't dictatorial in their advice (at least in my experience -- I'm
sure that one could kill a book project with the properly chosen
inflammatory words =). They are also keenly aware of Open Source and
related issues re: ownership (which is a slightly different issue than
Based on the above three points, I'd suggest y'all contact Frank Willison
(firstname.lastname@example.org), to find out his thoughts on the topic. You don't
have to have a detailed plan to ask him what he's thinkin about.
I'll be glad to answer questions re: dealing with ORA if any of you have
specific ideas, and give advice if advice is requested. =)
PS: as a Zope newbie, I could really use a Zope book. I also think that
there are several Zope books out there that need to be written, but
starting with one is a good first step.