[ZDP] on zope complexity (Re: Zope hierarchy)
19 May 1999 12:32:59 -0700
Martijn Faassen <email@example.com> writes:
> Tom Deprez wrote:
> > Yes, I know internal Zope is complex. Especially if you've never seen
> > Python.
> Even if you're seen Python it's complex, I can assure you.
I used to worry that zope has grown far from its simple & elegant
beginnings, and over-complexity leads to breakage. But something in
Larry Wall's "Open Sources"* piece clarified this for me:
We all have to deal with reality one way or another. So we
simplify. Often we oversimplify. Our ancestors oversimplified. They
fooled themselves into thinking that God only created circles and
spheres. They thought God would always prefer simplicity over
complexity. When they discovered that reality was more complicated
than they thought, they just swept the complexity under a carpet of
epicycles. That is, they created unnecessary complexity. This is an
important point. The universe is complex, but it's usefully complex.
Zope's innards are complex, but it's useful complexity, complexity in
the right place, because it allows greater simplicity in the larger
system. (And thereby, still greater complexity in the "even larger"
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