[ZDP] BackTalk to Document The Zope Book (2.5 Edition)/Introducing Zope

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Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:39:43 -0400

A comment to the paragraph below was recently added via http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/IntroducingZope.stx#2-15


    While this has advantages, it also has disadvantages.  Different
    kinds of tools and expertise must be used to work with the different
    components.  All the different components may need to have their own
    kind of security and maintenance concerns.  Many of these kinds of
    tools are not manageable from a web browser or from simple command
    line or GUI tools like FTP.

      % Anonymous User - June 13, 2002 2:46 pm:
       I think FTP is a communication protocol and not a tool, especially GUI. Unless you mean WinFTP32 or other GUI
       ftp clients. However most of the ones I work with are command line-based.

      % Anonymous User - June 17, 2002 6:07 am:
       File Transfer Protocol (FTP) strictly interpreted, is not a tool. However, many tools have been developed to
       simplify the process. Dreamweaver has an in-built FTP tool, as does FrontPage and more traditionally, WS_FTP.
       The majority of web designers and developers eschew the command line method in favour of these 'tools'

      % Anonymous User - July 1, 2002 10:34 pm:
       I think he might mean the Unix command line "ftp" program.

      % Anonymous User - July 12, 2002 1:01 am:
       a) the unix utility ftp doesn't have a gui
       b) how can you say "command line or gui tools like" - and then only provide one example? doesn't the
       pluralisation (if that's a word) require multiple examples?

      % Anonymous User - July 12, 2002 1:05 am:
       I am unconvinced that this "disadvantage" is valid. In my experience, you quite offen have different people,
       with different skillsets familiar with different tools responsible for content, interface, application logic,
       and database administration. Making them all learn a tool can not be considered beneficial.

      % Anonymous User - Aug. 6, 2002 5:23 pm:
       quit cutting the hairs people

      % Anonymous User - Aug. 9, 2002 9:36 pm:
       The expression is "splitting" hairs.

      % Anonymous User - Sep. 3, 2002 7:39 am:
       the last one is funny!