[ZDP] Re: ZDP Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18
chrism at zopemafia.com
Fri Oct 24 13:01:57 EDT 2003
Hi Tom: ever get that sinking feeling that you might be the person in
charge? Well, that's how I'm feeling at the moment. ;-)
I've seen the stuff you've sent in and it seems to be very helpful.
Would you like it if I gave you access to edit the book directly?
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 06:18, Tom Snell wrote:
> Zope Developer's Guide (2.4 edition)
> It is obvious many people new to Zope are burning up a lot of time,
> because it is very difficult to get a web site started. My reaction
> initially was to start a project that would teach people the, say, 50
> things required to get a web site going.
> Ironically, I have not been able to break into the organization and
> get a conversation going.
> WHO IS IN CHARGE?
> This is zope.org, so where is the org?
> Tom Snell
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> > 1. BackTalk to Document Zope Developer's Guide (2.4
> > edition)/Introduction (webmaster at zope.org)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:24:45 -0400
> > From: webmaster at zope.org
> > Subject: [ZDP] BackTalk to Document Zope Developer's Guide (2.4
> > edition)/Introduction
> > To: zdp at zope.org
> > Message-ID: <E1AChKP-0004yV-Nx at mail.python.org>
> > A comment to the paragraph below was recently added via http://zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/Introduction.stx#1-0
> > ---------------
> > Zope is an open source web application framework. It has three
> > distinct audiences:
> > % chrism - Dec. 10, 2001 11:02 am - Note that folks are encouraged to make comments using the comment system. Thanks!
> > *Site Managers* -- individuals who use of Zope's "out of the box" features
> > to build websites. This audience is interested in making use
> > of Zope's existing array of features to create content
> > management solutions. They will likely make heavy use of
> > "through the web" scripting using DTML, Page Templates, and
> > Python Scripts as well as (of course) HTML and XML. They are
> > generally less concerned about code reuse than the speed with
> > which they can create a custom application or website.
> > *Developers* -- individuals who wish to extend Zope to create
> > highly customized solutions. This audience is likely interested
> > in creating highly reusable custom code that makes Zope do something
> > new and interesting.
> > *Administrators* -- individuals responsible for keeping a Zope
> > site running and performing installations and upgrades.
> > % Anonymous User - Sep. 10, 2002 8:09 pm:
> > I really like the idea of a downloadable PDF. However the header on every page is "Introduction" (same in the
> > Zope Book). This doesn't give you much clue which chapter you are on and can be confusing.
> > I know that HTMLDOC supports putting the chapter name in the header. Can you do this instead?
> > % Anonymous User - Jan. 10, 2003 4:05 am:
> > This system is amazing. I like Python a lot!
> > % Anonymous User - Feb. 24, 2003 7:02 pm:
> > About the "Comment" images.
> > They have a thin black border around them (which is probably not what you want) but not in Mozilla or the
> > other popular browser.
> > If you change 'border="off"' to 'border="0"' in the HTML then the border disappears.
> > The border, though deprecated, is supposed to be an integer.
> > I know that this is a very picky point but it is not a really good introduction to Zope.
> > % Anonymous User - Apr. 9, 2003 9:51 am:
> > Is it possible to mention somewhere in the menu of this page that this beautifull functionnality that allow
> > the user to include comments directly on this page to maintain and enrich the contents is achieved with a
> > Zope product called "BackTalk" (with a link to the corresponding page). Perhaps it is written somewhere but
> > I've not been able to find it.
> > % Anonymous User - Apr. 9, 2003 2:19 pm:
> > See http://backtalk.sourceforge.net for the latest version...
> > % Anonymous User - May 4, 2003 5:37 pm:
> > I like commentable sites and even tried to design one once. But the comments here are too distracting, too
> > large and generally annoying.
> > They should either be restricted to areas that are fuzzy and uncertain or they should be really small and
> > unnoticable.
> > % Anonymous User - Sep. 1, 2003 10:05 pm:
> > I agree.
> > % Anonymous User - Sep. 23, 2003 8:04 am:
> > To add a comment please go to the top of any page and ascertain by clicking on the COM button whether is is
> > ON or OFF. Make sure it is OFF (Figure that one out!).
> > Go to the first available comment and then scroll to the far right. You will find a small button in the lower
> > right corner which, when clicked, adds a "Comment" window at the bottom of the page.
> > Add your comment.
> > % Anonymous User - Oct. 23, 2003 11:24 am:
> > hytyt
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