[ZDP] BackTalk to Document The Zope Book (2.6 Edition)/Using Zope Page Templates

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    There are a few cosmetic problems with the file library as it
    stands. The size and date displays of the default content are very
    pretty, but the values returned from Zope don't match the format
    of the dummy content. Instead, they are "raw" numbers.  You would
    like the size of the files to be displayed in K or MB rather than
    bytes. Here's a Python-based script that you can use for this::

      ## Script (Python) "file_size"
      ##
      """
      Return a string describing the size of a file.
      """
      bytes=context.getSize()
      k=bytes/1024.0
      mb=bytes/1048576.0
      if mb > 1:
          return "%.2f MB" % mb
      if k > 1:
          return "%d K" % k
      return "%d bytes" % bytes

      % Anonymous User - Nov. 4, 2003 10:53 am:
       We are learning about TAL?

      % Anonymous User - Nov. 4, 2003 10:57 am:
       Might it be appropriate to state somewhere that Page Templates accomodate TAL, TALES, METAL and Python and
       that TAL statements can use Python expressions if prefaced by python:? A header such as "Complex Expressions"
       might then be appropriate. Or is that "Advanced Page Templates"?
       I cannot penetrate TAL via this chapter.

      % Anonymous User - Nov. 20, 2003 9:51 am:
       So 'context' is a standard builtin Zope object, and 'getSize' is a standard builtin method of 'context' ??

       Using TAL syntax we activate the 'getsize' method of 'context' by making "context/getsize" the value of some
       TAL attribute (tal:something="context/getsize")??
       Using python syntax we activate the 'getsize' method of 'context' by typing:
       something=context.getSize()          or possibly:
       return context.getSize()

       Am I right or wrong?

      % Anonymous User - Dec. 2, 2003 11:22 pm:
       'context' is specific to Python Scripts. It means the same thing as 'here' in Page Templates. They really
       should have the same name in both; this is a historical wart. In a future version of zope (2.8?), 'context'
       will be available in Page Templates too and we can forget about 'here'.
       getSize is specific to objects that have size, such as Images and Files.

       otherwise, you are right.

      % Anonymous User - Feb. 1, 2004 4:05 am:
       > Anonymous User - Nov. 4, 2003 10:53 am:
       >  We are learning about TAL?

       Shut your cake hole. We are learning about Zope (this is the Zope book; well hello!). Zope uses Python. Zope
       uses TAL. TAL can be used in conjunction with Python. The Python examples demonstrate this in the simplest
       possible way. If you don't understand Python, buy a book. If you don't want to understand Python, gloss over
       those sections.