[ZDP] BackTalk to Document Zope Developer's Guide (2.4 edition)/Introduction

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  Zope is an open source web application framework.  It has three
  distinct audiences:

    % chrism - Dec. 10, 2001 11:02 am - Note that folks are encouraged to make
      comments using the comment system.  Thanks!

    *Site Managers* -- individuals who use of Zope's "out of the box" features
     to build websites.  This audience is interested in making use
     of Zope's existing array of features to create content
     management solutions.  They will likely make heavy use of
     "through the web" scripting using DTML, Page Templates, and
     Python Scripts as well as (of course) HTML and XML.  They are
     generally less concerned about code reuse than the speed with
     which they can create a custom application or website.

    *Developers* -- individuals who wish to extend Zope to create
     highly customized solutions.  This audience is likely interested
     in creating highly reusable custom code that makes Zope do something
     new and interesting.

    *Administrators* -- individuals responsible for keeping a Zope
     site running and performing installations and upgrades.

    % Anonymous User - Sep. 10, 2002 8:09 pm:
     I really like the idea of a downloadable PDF. However the header on every 
     page is "Introduction" (same in the Zope Book). This doesn't give you much
     clue which chapter you are on and can be confusing.
     I know that HTMLDOC supports putting the chapter name in the header. Can 
     you do this instead?

    % Anonymous User - Jan. 10, 2003 4:05 am:
     This system is amazing. I like Python a lot!

    % Anonymous User - Feb. 24, 2003 7:02 pm:
     About the "Comment" images.
     They have a thin black border around them (which is probably not what you 
     want) but not in Mozilla or the other popular browser.
     If you change 'border="off"' to 'border="0"' in the HTML then the border 
     The border, though deprecated, is supposed to be an integer.
     I know that this is a very picky point but it is not a really good 
     introduction to Zope.

    % Anonymous User - Apr. 9, 2003 9:51 am:
     Is it possible to mention somewhere in the menu of this page that this 
     beautifull functionnality that allow the user to include comments directly
     on this page to maintain and enrich the contents is achieved with a Zope
     product called "BackTalk" (with a link to the corresponding page). Perhaps
     it is written somewhere but I've not been able to find it.

    % Anonymous User - Apr. 9, 2003 2:19 pm:
     See http://backtalk.sourceforge.net for the latest version...

    % Anonymous User - May 4, 2003 5:37 pm:
     I like commentable sites and even tried to design one once. But the comments 
     here are too distracting, too large and generally annoying.
     They should either be restricted to areas that are fuzzy and uncertain or 
     they should be really small and unnoticable.

    % Anonymous User - Sep. 23, 2003 8:04 am:
     To add a comment please go to the top of any page and ascertain by clicking 
     on the COM button whether is is ON or OFF. Make sure it is OFF (Figure that 
     one out!).
     Go to the first available comment and then scroll to the far right. You will 
     find a small button in the lower right corner which, when clicked, adds a 
     "Comment" window at the bottom of the page.
     Add your comment.

    % Anonymous User - Nov. 8, 2003 2:39 pm:
     Lots of the comments are impossible to read on a small (laptop) screen, they 
     extend beyond the browser border and there are no scroll bar below.
     (of course you can copy/paste it, but that's not really a solution ;))
     This i is actually a general problem with the zope site. The text width is
     fixed, it doesnt wrap around.

    % Anonymous User - Mar. 24, 2004 10:03 am:
     ... and folks should be encouraged to read them and take note and clear them down because otherwise they clog
     the place up. There are more comments here than original text.

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