[Zope-CMF] ie5.5/binary files -- multiple promptings
Adam Davis
adam@digicool.com
Tue, 22 May 2001 10:32:53 -0700
FYI, for those who don't feel like checking out a new copy from CVS, you can
apply a simple, one-line fix to CMFDefault/File.py: comment out the line
index_html = download
which directly precedes the final line of code.
This is the fix I applied to digicool.com which Alan mentioned. Thanx to
Martijn originally for the patch.
-Adam
> From: "Andrew Sawyers" <andrew@digicool.com>
> To: "alan runyan" <runyaga@thisbox.com>,
> <zope-cmf@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope-CMF] ie5.5/binary files -- multiple promptings
> to open from location
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:14:59 -0400
>
> There is a known problem with IE 5.5. Where this is happening is in the
> download method, the Content-Disposition header being set (the use of the
> download method isn't necessary, and was removed in the fix).
> If you are using a CVS checkout, you need to cvs up. I'm pretty sure this
> has been fixed in the head of the CMF CVS....
> Andrew
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: zope-cmf-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-cmf-admin@zope.org]On Behalf
> > Of alan runyan
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:03 PM
> > To: zope-cmf@zope.org
> > Subject: [Zope-CMF] ie5.5/binary files -- multiple promptings to open
> > from location
> >
> >
> > I'm having a annoying little oddity. w/ IE5.5 and CMF/ZOPE
> >
> > <a href="Members/runyaga/MyFiles/blobby.wav">sounds of mr
> blobby</a> and
> > when I click on the url I get three promptings:
> >
> > first prompt is for / - open from location
> > second prompt is for blobby.wav - open from location
> > third prompt is for blobby.wav - AGAIN. - open from location - finally
> > works.
> >
> > if I say blobby.wav/download the same thing happens except for / i get a
> > prompt for download
> >
> > this was happening on the digicool.com site trying to open the
> .pdf files,
> > is this the same problem? I believe Adam Davis and/or digicool
> webmaster
> > had solved it.
> >
> > I am using Virtual Hosting and CMF.
> >
> > btw: Mr Blobby is some bizarre british kid show I think. I've
> been trying
> > to find a Mr Blobby doll so if anyone knows where I can find one please
> > email me ;)
> >
> > ~runyaga
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@zope.org
> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf
> >
> > See http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK/Tracker for bug reports and
> > feature requests
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:07:13 -0400
> Organization: Digital Creations, Inc.
> To: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> I'm excited to release a few screenshots!
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/workflow/index_html
>
> This thing is fully operational. I need to write documentation. It's a
> state machine with small influences from the ACS petri net tool.
>
> BTW thanks to everyone involved in the workflow discussions we had a
> while ago! This tool is based on the ideas posted over the past few
> months.
>
> Shane
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:38:29 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] ie5.5/binary files -- multiple promptings to open
> from location
> From: Tony McDonald <tony.mcdonald@ncl.ac.uk>
> To: alan runyan <runyaga@thisbox.com>,
> <zope-cmf@zope.org>
>
> On 21/5/01 7:02 pm, "alan runyan" <runyaga@thisbox.com> wrote:
>
> [what a dreadful way to make your first post on the CMF list]
>
> >
> > btw: Mr Blobby is some bizarre british kid show I think. I've
> been trying
> > to find a Mr Blobby doll so if anyone knows where I can find one please
> > email me ;)
> >
> > ~runyaga
> >
>
> As someone who is British, I would like to take this opportunity to
> apologize for Mr Blobby, Noel Edmonds and (gad!) Crinkley Bottom.
>
> I'm sure most people on this Sceptred Isle would agree.
>
> [I promise my next post will be on topic].
> Tone.
> --
> Dr Tony McDonald, Assistant Director, FMCC, http://www.fmcc.org.uk/
> The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 243 6140
> A Zope list for UK HE/FE http://www.fmcc.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/zope
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:41:28 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
> From: Tony McDonald <tony.mcdonald@ncl.ac.uk>
> To: <zope-cmf@zope.org>
>
> On 21/5/01 10:07 pm, "Shane Hathaway" <shane@digicool.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm excited to release a few screenshots!
> >
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/workflow/index_html
> >
>
> This looks *really* interesting - we're in the middle of a workflow
> situation at the moment, so this could be very handy...
>
> Tone.
> --
> Dr Tony McDonald, Assistant Director, FMCC, http://www.fmcc.org.uk/
> The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 243 6140
> A Zope list for UK HE/FE http://www.fmcc.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/zope
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
> From: Bill Anderson <bill@libc.org>
> To: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Date: 22 May 2001 00:01:48 -0600
>
> On 21 May 2001 17:07:13 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > I'm excited to release a few screenshots!
> >
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/workflow/index_html
> >
> > This thing is fully operational. I need to write documentation. It's a
> > state machine with small influences from the ACS petri net tool.
> >
> > BTW thanks to everyone involved in the workflow discussions we had a
> > while ago! This tool is based on the ideas posted over the past few
> > months.Sweet!
>
> "When/where can we get it to play with?" he said eagerly.
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:08:45 +0200
> From: Lucas Hofman <lucas.hofman@oslo.pgs.com>
> To: <Allen.Vailliencourt@channelmaxinc.com>
> Cc: <Zope-CMF@zope.org>
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Who's using CFM Live?
>
> Allen.Vailliencourt@channelmaxinc.com wrote:
> >
> > I just started playing with the CFM 1.0 module and am impressed
> with it so far. It's a great
> > alternative to Interwoven or Documentum (and it's cost is
> unbeatable :) ). My question to you folk
> > is who is using Zope and the CFM stuff on a live site (besides
> the actualy Zope sites). Any
> > businesses using this? I'm looking into using this for our
> Intranet right now as it's a beaast and
> > is currently being redesigned. If all goes well I might port it
> to our external corporate websites
>
> We are. You can not see it, it behind the firewall. I started
> implementing the then called PTK spring 2000. We are now about to
> release the 2001 version based on CMF1.0. Zope/PTK has shown to be a
> stable and robust production environment.
>
> It is a very productive environment, but has a steep learning curve for
> the non python people. Documentation is still a weak point, although
> the Zope book is really good on the zope part. The CMF is complex, so
> you will spend quite a few hours looking at source code to see how
> things work.
>
> Migration between PTK and CMF turned out to be a real problem due to the
> fact that everything is in the ZODB. Very little database management
> tools/scripts are available so you have to write your own.
>
> --
> Lucas Hofman
> PGS Research work: +47 67514059
> PO Box 354 fax: +47 67526640
> N-1326 Lysaker, Norway home: +47 67581373
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:30:24 +0100
> From: seb bacon <seb@jamkit.com>
> To: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> Cc: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> Come on now, it's not fair to play games with everyone.
> It looks amazing, it's 'fully operational' - hand over the code ;-)
>
> seb
>
> * Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com> [010521 22:12]:
> > I'm excited to release a few screenshots!
> >
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/workflow/index_html
> >
> > This thing is fully operational. I need to write documentation. It's a
> > state machine with small influences from the ACS petri net tool.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:41:42 -0400
> Organization: Digital Creations, Inc.
> To: zope-cmf@zope.org
>
> seb bacon wrote:
> >
> > Come on now, it's not fair to play games with everyone.
> > It looks amazing, it's 'fully operational' - hand over the code ;-)
>
> Some have pondered keeping the source closed and selling it. I can
> understand that thought--this is a new direction for Zope and DC. But I
> think if the source is open, the community involvement will help move it
> forward, while if the source is closed it will just stagnate and
> eventually be replaced.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Shane
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:41:40 +0200
> From: Martijn Pieters <mj@digicool.com>
> To: Tony McDonald <tony.mcdonald@ncl.ac.uk>
> Cc: alan runyan <runyaga@thisbox.com>, zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope-CMF] OT; Mr Blobby
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:38:29AM +0100, Tony McDonald wrote:
> > On 21/5/01 7:02 pm, "alan runyan" <runyaga@thisbox.com> wrote:
> >
> > [what a dreadful way to make your first post on the CMF list]
> > > btw: Mr Blobby is some bizarre british kid show I think.
> I've been trying
> > > to find a Mr Blobby doll so if anyone knows where I can find
> one please
> > > email me ;)
> >
> > As someone who is British, I would like to take this opportunity to
> > apologize for Mr Blobby, Noel Edmonds and (gad!) Crinkley Bottom.
> >
> > I'm sure most people on this Sceptred Isle would agree.
>
> I hail from the mainland, but we receive the BBC here, and I must agree
> wholeheartedly. As my wife is from Scotland, we prefer BBC over any local
> station most of the time, and you have hit one of the exceptions.
>
> --
> Martijn Pieters
> | Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com
> | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/
> | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:49:23 +0100
> From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
> Organization: New Information Paradigms
> To: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> CC: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
> >
> > seb bacon wrote:
> > >
> > > Come on now, it's not fair to play games with everyone.
> > > It looks amazing, it's 'fully operational' - hand over the code ;-)
> >
> > Some have pondered keeping the source closed and selling it. I can
> > understand that thought--this is a new direction for Zope and DC.
>
> Huh?! I thought Brian M wasn't going to change anything?!?
>
> > But I
> > think if the source is open, the community involvement will help move it
> > forward, while if the source is closed it will just stagnate and
> > eventually be replaced.
>
> I couldn't agree more but I'm sad to hear those overtones coming
> from DC :-S
>
> Chris
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:35:26 +0100
> From: seb bacon <seb@jamkit.com>
> To: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> Cc: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> * Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com> [010522 13:47]:
> > seb bacon wrote:
> > >
> > > Come on now, it's not fair to play games with everyone.
> > > It looks amazing, it's 'fully operational' - hand over the code ;-)
> >
> > Some have pondered keeping the source closed and selling it. I can
> > understand that thought--this is a new direction for Zope and DC. But I
> > think if the source is open, the community involvement will help move it
> > forward, while if the source is closed it will just stagnate and
> > eventually be replaced.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> DC should do whatever they need to do to keep profitable. If this
> means closing off some of the CMF code, then so be it. I wouldn't
> want DC to struggle because of the Open Source decision, and I'm
> immensely grateful for what we've already been given.
>
> Having said that, however:
>
> 1) DC committed themselves to OSS for a very good reason - essentially
> the ones you outlined above. DC opened up the previously closed
> software, ZEO, for the same reasons. Either those reasons still
> stand and the original business model (consulting, etc) remains
> sound, or the OSS experiment was a mistake.
>
> 2) However, if DC sees add-on modules as part of consulting work, that
> makes sense.
> Isn't Workflow part of the core, though? It is core features like
> this which will encourage new users to embrace the CMF and help
> develop it further, make it more stable, popular, and feature-rich,
> and ultimately help DC sell 'modules'.
>
> Thanks for opening up this question. As long as DC keeps transparent
> its decision making process where these decisions effect the rest of the
> community, I'm happy, and I'll support whatever DC's conclusions may
> be (although I'd be very sad to see your latest work get closed off,
> and personally, I think it would be a mistake).
>
> However, I'm a bit confused: could you explain how this is a new
> direction? In particular, what are the business requirements driving
> the recent flurry of CMF improvements?
>
> Cheers,
>
> seb
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:05:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>
> To: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
> Cc: <zope-cmf@zope.org>
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2001, Chris Withers wrote:
>
> > Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > >
> > > seb bacon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Come on now, it's not fair to play games with everyone.
> > > > It looks amazing, it's 'fully operational' - hand over the code ;-)
> > >
> > > Some have pondered keeping the source closed and selling it. I can
> > > understand that thought--this is a new direction for Zope and DC.
> >
> > Huh?! I thought Brian M wasn't going to change anything?!?
>
> Goodness, Brian has nothing to do with this. Please don't jump to
> conclusions. Remember that ZEO was closed for a long time.
>
> Since the inception of the idea of web-configurable workflow months ago,
> we chose to keep our options open as to whether it should be open sourced
> or not. The only thing this should imply is that the concept is valuable
> enough to consider a different marketing model. The current thinking is
> that we'll get the most value by open sourcing it.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:32:24 +0100
> From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
> Organization: New Information Paradigms
> To: seb bacon <seb@jamkit.com>
> CC: Shane Hathaway <shane@digicool.com>, zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Sneak preview - workflow
>
> *sheepish grinz*
>
> As before, Seb comes up with a more measured and ultimately
> sensible response...
>
> seb bacon wrote:
> >
> > DC should do whatever they need to do to keep profitable. If this
> > means closing off some of the CMF code, then so be it. I wouldn't
> > want DC to struggle because of the Open Source decision, and I'm
> > immensely grateful for what we've already been given.
>
> I'd agree, although I would feel slightly cheated in this
> particular instance as
> I know a lot of people spent a fair bit of time helping out in
> the mailing list
> discussion. I'm sure that was done with the understanding that
> the results of
> the discussion would be open sourced...
>
> >
> > 1) DC committed themselves to OSS for a very good reason - essentially
> > the ones you outlined above. DC opened up the previously closed
> > software, ZEO, for the same reasons.
>
> Interesting how both you and Shane used this point for opposite reasons...
>
> > Either those reasons still
> > stand and the original business model (consulting, etc) remains
> > sound, or the OSS experiment was a mistake.
> >
> > 2) However, if DC sees add-on modules as part of consulting work, that
> > makes sense.
> > Isn't Workflow part of the core, though? It is core features like
> > this which will encourage new users to embrace the CMF and help
> > develop it further, make it more stable, popular, and feature-rich,
> > and ultimately help DC sell 'modules'.
> >
>
> > be (although I'd be very sad to see your latest work get closed off,
> > and personally, I think it would be a mistake).
>
> Me too :-S
>
> > However, I'm a bit confused: could you explain how this is a new
> > direction? In particular, what are the business requirements driving
> > the recent flurry of CMF improvements?
>
> I'd be very interested in these too...
>
> One final comment though, if it appears that DC are
> 'cherry-picking' the best
> ideas after discussing them with the community and then
> closed-sourcing the
> results, the might discourage the community from getting involved in those
> discussions.
>
> It may also, in the extreme, raise the wrath of the FSF
> fundamentalists, which
> would be unpleasant for all of us...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:35:07 +0100
> From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
> Organization: New Information Paradigms
> To: tseaver@digicool.com
> CC: seb bacon <seb@jamkit.com>, marc lindahl <marc@bowery.com>,
> zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] catalog and Subject metadata
>
> Tres Seaver wrote:
> >
> > > subject is spam, which isn't really expected behaviour.
> >
> > The catalog doesn't make "or" searches really feasible at the moment.
>
> Is this on the way at all? It would be mighty handy for a lot of
> things and
> would remove the need to use the common pattern (hack?) below:
>
> > A workaround would be to add a new index, say 'BetterSearchableText'
> > to the catalog, and then write a Python Script (in the 'custom' skin,
> > or in the portal root) which computes it as:
> >
> > return context.SearchableText() + _.string.join( context.Subject() )
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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