[Zope-CMF] Combining CMF and shopping?

Erik Lange erik@mmmanager.org
Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:52:13 +0200


Hi,

We tried to use Etailer with the CMF, but have now started to write a
"CMFshop" from scratch, since this was easier than rewriting the Etailer to
fit the CMF.

Using the CMF, we're now able to make a shop that can handle micropayments
between portal-members!

We will of course release this to the Zope/CMF community as soon as
possible. If anybody else are working on something like this, let us now and
let us join forces ;-)

But why stop there ? Inspirred by the CMF, we're now working on a sort of
"syndicated micropayments" :

1. a member on portal A makes an account and deposits $10

2. he spends $4 at portal A to see some video or read articles as
pay-per-view.

3. he visits portal B where he needs to pay $2 for something else and
normally would have to set up a new account.

4. he authorises portal B to check for credit on Portal A.

5. a software-agent from portal B request if member is good for the $2 -
portal A verifies and "locks" the $2 as "used".

6. the agent returns to portal B in deposits $2 on members account here.

7. the member can now use his money on portal B, and have $4 left on his
account on portal A for later use.

This would mean that the user would only have to trust one portal with his
credit-card, and can have a universal wallet for micropayments.

Being from Europe, I only know that you have services in the states that
operates something like this, but as I understand, they are more or less all
meant to pay "off-net"-bills, and not like this designed for
online-to-online commerce - or am I totally off, and have this allready been
done ?

My point with the system outlined above, is that sites won't need to make
complicated deals on how to serve eachothers clients, but by using a
standard protocol in their system can exchange micropayments with other
sites, on behalf of their respective users... Today we can't make sites here
in Europe, that you can use from the states, unless you creates a new
account on each of our sites - and vice versa! - AFAIK...

I know that this is a bit (or WAY!) off-topic here, nevertheless I'll stick
my head out and will appreciate any feedback you might have ;-)

Regards,
Erik Lange


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-cmf-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-cmf-admin@zope.org]On Behalf
> Of Nolan Darilek
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:48 PM
> To: zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope-CMF] Combining CMF and shopping?
>
>
> This is probably the oddest use of CMF, but I'm wondering if it'd be
> possible without having to delve into the python code, or if I should
> wait until the CMF is a bit more customizable.
>
> I'm looking at deploying the CMF alongside EMarket or some other
> shopping product. I'm envisioning CMF as a tool which will enable less
> web-literate content designers to avoid DTML and, using structured
> text, HTML if desired. Also, the CMF could be used for site news,
> discussions if we later choose to add them, etc.
>
> But for users, many of the management aspects of the CMF should
> vanish. A manager can log in and view a CMF interface very similar to
> the current version. But for users, the "My stuff" link is replaced
> with a "My account" button which, when clicked on, brings up the
> members/blah page. If the user isn't logged in, then the login page
> appears instead, and the member's default page displays a list of
> items ordered, for sale, etc. and perhaps replies to any
> questions/posted discussion topics. The site will be primarily an
> auction site, so having a default member page which can be bookmarked
> and returned to would be extremely convenient.
>
> I'm curious to know if anyone has done something like this before and,
> if so, how I should go about mixing these products? Should I create
> separate EMarket/CMM sites and copy everything from the EMarket site
> into the CMF folder? Or should I create the EMarket site from within
> the CMF site and use acquisition? I glanced briefly through the
> various skins, but I'm not entirely sure where I would modify what
> appears after clicking on the "My stuff" link; could anyone offer any
> pointers? What if I wanted to collect additional information on users
> upon registration (preferred shipping address, etc.) and store them
> for convenience?
>
> TIA
>
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