[Zope-CMF] Moderated Discussion

Robert Rottermann robert@redcor.ch
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:01:42 +0100


Hi Alan,
I am just about to plunge into plone.
My motivation is that I had to alter the  CMF UI for some projects I was
involved with rather heavily.
I am therefore investigating whether we should use plone as the basis of our
work.

I would be interested in you Formulator enabled plone version.

Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Runyan" <runyaga@runyaga.com>
To: "Lennon Day-Reynolds" <lennon@day-reynolds.com>
Cc: <zope-cmf@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] Moderated Discussion


> > Plone is ZPT-based, and uses CSS extensively, and Blark just clobbers
the
> > layout and style. Perhaps it's less a DTML vs. ZPT issue, and simply a
> > product of how much of the look-and-feel for it's section of the site
> Blark
> > simply takes over.
>
> yes.  the zope-skins mailing list (which was never announced) and has
kinda
> lulled was going to attempt to address this question: how we all can share
> interface space.  for instance if we all conformed to a very high level
> CSS/Interface design we could plug bits in w/o stepping on each other.
>
> > Right now, Plone provides the basic look-and-feel for more or less the
> > entire site. It may go away, though, as I become more comfortable with
> skin
> > setup myself. Using ZPT is more or less a hard requirement, though, as
the
> > site's look-and-feel need to be maintainable via standard design tools
> like
> > Dreamweaver without me or another programmer having to "port" every
piece
> > of updated HTML to DTML.
>
> I think I have a DTML version of Plone around here.  its really old and
> crusty.  i think for Plone ZPT is the best choice.  if you look at the
forms
> they are very well designed and are easy to digest.
>
> > As far as reuse of existing discussion tools goes, I'm certainly open to
> > options. I'd rather not introduce a RDBMS dependency, (as Squib does)
but
> > it might be a usable stopgap.
>
> I looked at the source a little.  its pretty nasty ;) its got loads of
> features incorporated into it.  I would really like to work on this.
maybe
> we should take a cut at a API first?  for something that will scale in
high
> write environments I would suggest moving to a RDBMS.  I believe its
> possible in ZODB land.. just not very fun.
>
> It would really be nice so all in CMF land could register with a tool and
> allow users to pick boxes (I think PostNuke calls them BLOCKS) they want
to
> display.  Ultimately we really want CMFCalendar, Blog, Voting, Discussion
> Forums, RSS feeds, anything else in CMF to be able to participate easily
> with each other.
>
> Plone Update:
> I've just incorporated Formulator into Plone.  It seems like it will work.
> I have a portal_forms tool that is responsible for creating Forms and has
a
> method validate(form).  works just fine so far.  If people are interested
in
> testing, please contact me.
>
> ~runyaga
>
>
>
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