[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] CMF 1.5 roadmap?

Tres Seaver tseaver at zope.com
Tue Feb 24 13:45:36 EST 2004


Chris McDonough wrote:
> I'd like to see Archetypes in there.  The reason I'd like to see it in
> there is because:
> 
> a) It works very well and is quite stable, very well-written,
> well-maintained, just generally a good piece of software all-around.
> b) It already works with plain CMF.  You just need to plug it in to the
> repository and maybe tweak a couple of things like stylesheets.
> c) The authors (Ben Saller and crew) seem to be OK with it going in to
> the core
> d) I'd like to see people rally around CMF rather than balkanizing into
> smaller groups.  It'd be good to take stock of work that other folks
> have done and allow folks to share their respective burdens by
> consolidating.  The Zope community is still too small for balkanization
> to work in the long run IMHO.
> 
> I'm not sure if any of these reasons are compelling, really, and I can
> understand why it might be more advantageous to leave Archetypes out of
> the mix politically and practically.  That said, I think there's an
> opportunity for consolidation here without much pain, and I think
> Archetypes is tremendously useful and takes an substantial amount of
> pain out of writing CMF applications.
> 
> There are some problems with this:
> 
> - CPS Schema is a competitor, and the CPS guys might have issues
>   with it.
> 
> - Zope 3 Schema is a competitor.
> 
> - There really should be a representative equivalent of
>   CMFDefault-written-with-Archetypes to make it clear how
>   to write CMF applications with Archetypes.
> 
> - Dunno if there are any licensing/religious issues
>   between the two camps (Ben & ZC, really) yet.  Doesn't
>   seem like there are: Archetypes is BSD.  It would be up to
>   Ben to choose to relicense it under the ZPL.

Either relicensing to the ZPL or else permission from On High (Jim, I 
think) would be required to move the code into the cvs.zope.org 
repository;  that move is a necessary requirement for shipping 
Archetypes with the CMF.

I am fine with the idea, and think we could easily get your "demo" bit 
written (a combination of Epoz, action icons, and archetypes would rock!)

Tres.
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