[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: PAS and the (non?) future of members

Florent Guillaume fg at nuxeo.com
Fri Feb 3 09:42:53 EST 2006

Rob Miller wrote:
> i'm wondering if it's not time to rethink the entire idea of members as
> they currently exist in CMF.  members were originally a necessary evil,
> because the user folder implementation of users didn't allow for enough
> flexibility to support CMF's needs.  now, however, PAS makes it possible
> to encapsulate all of the necessary behaviour in the user objects
> themselves, and it should be possible to eliminate the complexity of
> wrapping the user object altogether.
> over the last few days at the snow sprint here in austria i've been
> working on a Plone-based product called Membrane.  Membrane implements PAS
> plugins which allow portal content to be used as the authentication,
> property, group, role, etc. providers for users.  it's quite nice, i
> think, very flexible and powerful, and i think it contains ideas that
> might do well in CMF itself.
> even if the content-based plug-ins are not desireable, i think it's still
> worth investigating the use of PAS and the idea of deprecating the
> member/user duality altogether.  anyone else interested in this approach?


CPS has been using using this route for a while and we never saw a need for 
differentiating between users/members at the object level (Member role can 
still be useful of course). In CPS, the memberdata/membership tools delegate 
most of their operations to the CPSUserFolder or the user objects themselves 
(which then often delegate operations to our "directories" but that's 
another story).


Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   Director of R&D
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