[Zope-CMF] Re: Some first steps with CMF2

[David Pratt]

Hi Yuppie. Is there some interest in having CPSSkins V3 work together 
with CMF in the new release? The CMF on its own is still very nice 
framework but it would be nice if it was usable with a new skin. 
CPSSkins V3 is ZPL. The old default templates are really not pretty but 
CPSSkins could give CMF on its own a new life don't you think? What it 
is missing is a Five bridge. Is this something that we could make 
happen. I am willing to help (but my ZCML knowledge is not particularly 
  great at this stage). I am not sure when the final CMF 2.0.0 but it 
would be a real milestone if we could give CMF a new exterior for it's 
debut as 2.0.

Regards,
David

David Pratt wrote:
> Hi Yuppie.  Many thanks for this help. Yikes with the profiles. Not sure 
> which way I will go. I'll wait for Rocky on 2.9 pythonproducts which 
> will hopefull be shortly. I was hoping the Z3ECM CPSSkins could be used 
> with CMF Default so that views could be integrated into something good 
> and new. CPSSkins is ZPL. I guess formlib will be a bit so I should not 
> be so anxious. It all takes time. :-)
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> yuppie wrote:
> 
>> Hi David!
>>
>>
>> David Pratt wrote:
>>
>>> My first question has to do with GenericSetup. I have portals that 
>>> require the adding of a variety of tools etc. So first off how/where 
>>> do I create my site configuration so that I can create clones with my 
>>> own configuration instead of default?
>>
>>
>>
>> In general it should be easier to customize a site and create the 
>> profile by exporting the site configuration compared to customizing 
>> the XML files directly.
>>
>> A tarball import function is still missing, so the easiest way to use 
>> your own profiles is creating a small product that registers your 
>> profile.
>>
>> There are two possible strategies for creating your profiles:
>>
>> 1.) Create your own base profile(s)
>>
>> pro: This is an automated process because exports are always base 
>> profiles.
>>
>> con: You create a lot of redundant configuration data that will become 
>> hard to maintain if the default profiles are changed or you need many 
>> similar configurations.
>>
>> 2.) Create your own extension profile(s)
>>
>> pro: It just represents the difference to the base profile and other 
>> extension profiles. Keeping track of changes in those profiles is an 
>> automated process.
>>
>> con: While a diff helps you to identify changes between two profiles 
>> creating an extension profile is manual work.
>>
>>> Second, does CMF now support products as a package instead? If so 
>>> where are the packages to be located for CMF and is there some sort 
>>> of code somewhere that would exemplify an approach for moving my own 
>>> products forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not officially supported but it might work with the latest Five 
>> / pythonproducts code. I haven't tried it so far.
>>
>>> I see that five views are now available for default types. This is 
>>> very exciting. How would one deal with the main portal template?
>>
>>
>>
>> The main_template is one of the oldest parts of the CMFDefault skin. I 
>> guess it needs a major refactoring if we port it to five views. For 
>> now you customize it the old way or make your own experiments.
>>
>>> Last question has to do with formlib. Does this integration exist in 
>>> CMF2 currently?
>>
>>
>>
>> CMF doesn't integrate Zope 3 features faster than Five. CMF 2.0 just 
>> requires Zope 2.9 (Five 1.3) which has no formlib support. Maybe CMF 
>> 2.1 will use formlib and maybe you can already do useful things with 
>> the latest Five code and formlib in CMF 2.0.
>>
>>> Sorry for so many questions but I am really pumped about the changes 
>>> and I am anxious to begin moving things over.
>>
>>
>>
>> You are welcome!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>     Yuppie
>>
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