[Zope-CMF] Re: Some first steps with CMF2

[David Pratt]

Hi Jens. I should have spoken up sooner I guess but I feel this idea has 
merit. Well it's the Five bridge that is needed here since this is a 
Zope3 package at this point. I am in the process of trying to become a 
bit better acquaited with ZCML but I may need some help to get this to work.

Regards,
David

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> I'm afraid integrating a separate product at the last minute is not  in 
> the cards. We're in beta, and that means feature freeze. One way  of 
> achieving what you want, if missing code is indeed the problem,  would 
> be to write a addon Zope product which provides the missing  pieces. 
> That can be done independent of the CMF roadmap, which you  can find here:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Products/CMF/docs/roadmap/view
> 
> jens
> 
> 
> On 28 Feb 2006, at 22:38, David Pratt wrote:
> 
>> Hi Yuppie. Is there some interest in having CPSSkins V3 work  together 
>> with CMF in the new release? The CMF on its own is still  very nice 
>> framework but it would be nice if it was usable with a  new skin. 
>> CPSSkins V3 is ZPL. The old default templates are really  not pretty 
>> but CPSSkins could give CMF on its own a new life don't  you think? 
>> What it is missing is a Five bridge. Is this something  that we could 
>> make happen. I am willing to help (but my ZCML  knowledge is not 
>> particularly  great at this stage). I am not sure  when the final CMF 
>> 2.0.0 but it would be a real milestone if we  could give CMF a new 
>> exterior for it's debut as 2.0.
>>
>> Regards,
>> David
>>
>> David Pratt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yuppie.  Many thanks for this help. Yikes with the profiles.  Not 
>>> sure which way I will go. I'll wait for Rocky on 2.9  pythonproducts 
>>> which will hopefull be shortly. I was hoping the  Z3ECM CPSSkins 
>>> could be used with CMF Default so that views could  be integrated 
>>> into something good and new. CPSSkins is ZPL. I  guess formlib will 
>>> be a bit so I should not be so anxious. It all  takes time. :-)
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>> yuppie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Pratt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My first question has to do with GenericSetup. I have portals  that 
>>>>> require the adding of a variety of tools etc. So first off  
>>>>> how/where do I create my site configuration so that I can create  
>>>>> clones with my own configuration instead of default?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In general it should be easier to customize a site and create the  
>>>> profile by exporting the site configuration compared to  customizing 
>>>> the XML files directly.
>>>>
>>>> A tarball import function is still missing, so the easiest way to  
>>>> use your own profiles is creating a small product that registers  
>>>> your profile.
>>>>
>>>> There are two possible strategies for creating your profiles:
>>>>
>>>> 1.) Create your own base profile(s)
>>>>
>>>> pro: This is an automated process because exports are always base  
>>>> profiles.
>>>>
>>>> con: You create a lot of redundant configuration data that will  
>>>> become hard to maintain if the default profiles are changed or  you 
>>>> need many similar configurations.
>>>>
>>>> 2.) Create your own extension profile(s)
>>>>
>>>> pro: It just represents the difference to the base profile and  
>>>> other extension profiles. Keeping track of changes in those  
>>>> profiles is an automated process.
>>>>
>>>> con: While a diff helps you to identify changes between two  
>>>> profiles creating an extension profile is manual work.
>>>>
>>>>> Second, does CMF now support products as a package instead? If  so 
>>>>> where are the packages to be located for CMF and is there  some 
>>>>> sort of code somewhere that would exemplify an approach for  moving 
>>>>> my own products forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not officially supported but it might work with the latest  
>>>> Five / pythonproducts code. I haven't tried it so far.
>>>>
>>>>> I see that five views are now available for default types. This  is 
>>>>> very exciting. How would one deal with the main portal template?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The main_template is one of the oldest parts of the CMFDefault  
>>>> skin. I guess it needs a major refactoring if we port it to five  
>>>> views. For now you customize it the old way or make your own  
>>>> experiments.
>>>>
>>>>> Last question has to do with formlib. Does this integration  exist 
>>>>> in CMF2 currently?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CMF doesn't integrate Zope 3 features faster than Five. CMF 2.0  
>>>> just requires Zope 2.9 (Five 1.3) which has no formlib support.  
>>>> Maybe CMF 2.1 will use formlib and maybe you can already do  useful 
>>>> things with the latest Five code and formlib in CMF 2.0.
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for so many questions but I am really pumped about the  
>>>>> changes and I am anxious to begin moving things over.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are welcome!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>     Yuppie
>>>>
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