[Zope-dev] Zope, 4Zope and XML???

Todd Coram todd@digicool.com
Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:50:16 -0500


Jay (and anyone else interested in Zope & XML),

A new focus/strategy has been taken regarding DC and Zope XML. Check out
http://www.egroups.com/message/zope-xml/531 and
http://www.egroups.com/message/zope-xml/533.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-dev-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-admin@zope.org]On Behalf
> Of Jay, Dylan
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:02 AM
> To: 'zope-dev@zope.org'
> Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope, 4Zope and XML???
>
>
> I've been considering using XML within Zope as a kind of XML
> repository with
> versioning etc. I've been trying to follow what the developments with XML
> with regard to Zope are and I'm becoming very confused. There
> seems to have
> been some really good stuff coming up with regard to integration between
> fourthought XML tools and Zope but that was 6 months back. What has
> happened? From the looks of it fourthought have back out and are now
> creating their own persistent XML storage and 4Suite application server.
>
> I've read all the xml-wiki stuff but there doesn't seem to have been any
> actual code produced to improve support for XML in Zope for over 6 months.
> What there is is pretty behind the times. I'd really like to see
> XPath, XQL,
> XLink, XPointer all being well supported with some kind of heavy duty
> XMLRepository storage in Zope. I see Zope as the perfect place to put this
> sort of thing since it provides all the undo, versioning, transparent
> persistence to make it easy to work with XML. What's needed is support for
> more powerful query languages. I want to be able to use a Zope XML
> repository as an alternative to an RDBMS i.e. to store data for use in
> applications. I want to do this because RDBMS's are not so nice when it
> comes to the kind of structured information that XML is good at. I don't
> want to use straight Zope objects because I want a very loose coupling
> between my data and my interface (something that I see as a deficit in the
> default way Zope seems to promote development). I want to be able
> to examine
> my data in an independent way and take it out and use something
> else as the
> interface if necessary. XML lets me do that. RDBMS lets me do that.
>
> Anyway, what's the story with Zope and XML?
>
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