[Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3

Phil Harris phil.harris@zope.co.uk
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:32:01 +0000


Brian,

Good answer, I for one would like to add a vote for the new UI.

+1

Phil
phil.harris@zweb.co.uk

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote:
> > I think the new UI for 2.3 is great improvement over 2.2.
> >
> > I'm already finding the sorted tables of folder contents
>
> useful, and
>
> > having the add new items select at the top saves time.
> >
> >
> > However, I do not like the 3-frame interface. I feel that
>
> the top frame
>
> > is wasted space. The Zope logo and "Logged in as username
> >
> | Logout"
> |
> > could as easily go at the bottom of the tree-view frame on
>
> the left.
>
> > This would leave extra screen space for doing work.
> >
> > I realize that I can make the frame smaller by dragging it
>
> with my
>
> > mouse. I do a lot of TTW development, and I think I might
>
> find that
>
> > cumbersome, so I guess I'll be hacking the top frame out
>
> of my
>
> > management interface :-)
>
> Are you guys working on 486's with 13in. monitors at 640x480
> or
> something? :^)
>
> Seriously - Zope has been criticized for a very long time
> for
> being, ah, aesthetically challenged :) It is a valid
> criticism
> - we have been (and quite honestly, will continue to be)
> more
> concerned with function over form. But is it really so bad
> to
> make a 32 pixel-high concession to a small pittance of
> branding?
>
> I know that "branding" isn't important for those who are
> already
> believers, but Zope has grown enough that its reasonable to
> put
> some effort into "first impression factor". It doesn't help
> the
> community for reviews to come out that waste words on the
> visual appeal shortcomings of the UI and totally miss the
> point. A better first impression is a Good Thing.
>
> The top frame is also a place where we might want to put
> more
> "placeless" operations like logout in the future. You can
> only
> jam so much into the tree pane without it looking very much
> like way too much is being jammed into the tree pane :)
> FWIW,
> one of the things we may put there later is a way to do
> "browser
> preferences" via cookies to control things like default text
> area sizes. That could also have a "hide top frame" option
> for
> those who really can't spare the 32px. :^)
>
>
>
> Brian Lloyd        brian@digicool.com
> Software Engineer  540.371.6909
> Digital Creations  www.digicool.com
>
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