[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?

[Simon Michael]

Casey Duncan wrote:
> On a bright note, I think zopewiki.org could change that. It *greatly*
> lowers the bar on contributing

That is exactly the intent. We have needed this since the days of the ZDP.

 > I see no reason why it being or not being on Zope.org is relevant. Its a
 > social thing: Simon decided to do something and had the software,

Not *just* social. I would say there seem to be 
social/structural/technical/perceptual reasons why such a thing simply 
cannot exist at ZC-managed zope.org right now. So, while zope.org would 
be the ideal url (and I tried to nudge zope.org in this direction for 
years without coming across as a zealot) I think there are actually some 
advantages to having a slightly separate docs site. More modular, scales 
better. Of course the more integration and interlinking the better.

Constructively-intended zope.org criticism: zope.org is the zope 
community's biggest documentation asset. And yet at this point it is 
indeed also a big fat piano sitting on the windpipe of zope 
documentation, and hence the zope community itself.

This is despite the best of intentions on all sides. To say (as Stephan 
has) that it's due to lack of volunteers is wrong. Many of us have 
tried. Perhaps ZC expects more from a volunteer than is realistic. 
Compare with other successful successful open source projects.