Zope Book development moved (was Re: Call for Zope Book volunteers (was Re: Zope Book, was Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?))

[Chris McDonough]

I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that Zope.org is just not going
to cut it to do Zope Book development work due to its speed (or lack
thereof).

I'd like to help fix the Zope.org slowness problem, but I'm a little
unclear about what's required for me to get the level of access required
to do so.  I read the stuff at Zope.org/About and Zope.com/Legal but
it's a little hard to divine out of the combination what I need to do
before I can be allowed to help.  So of the Zope.org Application Server
Working Group/Zope Application Working Group/Whoever wants help trying
to fix it, you know where to find me!  Just don't make me attend a 7am
committee meeting or sign a noncompete instrument <wink>.

In the meantime, in the spirit of expedience, I'm moving the development
version of the book to plope.com.  Once 2.7 edition development work is
done, I will move a copy of the book back to Zope.org so it can be found
easily by newbies.  Interested parties can now refer to
http://www.plope.com/Books/zb_signup for project information.

- C

On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 14:13, Chris McDonough wrote:
> I've set up a development BackTalk sandbox for the 2.7 edition of the
> Zope book at http://zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_7Edition. 
> Currently it's just an exact copy of the 2.6 Edition book (comments and
> all).  I think the plan should be for people to:
> 
> 1. take ownership of a chapter or two
> 2. address all the comments in the chapter and get rid of comments
>    in places you've addressed.
> 3. update any material that is wrong wrt to differences between
>    2.6 and 2.7.
> 
> The "prize" for taking ownership and updating two complete chapters is
> your name as a coauthor on the front page (as before ;-).
> 
> Another thing to do is to incorporate some of John Whitener's changes
> "the lost chapter" referenced all over the place within book comments. 
> I wonder if he's still around.
> 
> At some point in the future, we can "backport" some of the changes to
> the 2.6 book if someone wants to take on that responsibility.
> 
> It's advisable to use external editor to make the changes or to maybe
> use FTP to get "sandboxed" local copies of the book and make changes
> reuploading them as necessary.  I've lost track of whether FTP access is
> possible or not on Zope.org at this point, however.  Does anyone know? 
> I've tried a few ports but nothing.
> 
> Also, Zope.org is so slow for each request when you're logged in that we
> may need to move development to another system.  As a data point, I've
> been waiting > 4 minutes for Z.org to save a Wiki page... still
> waiting.  Hilarious.  Admittedly, it takes a unique brand of apathy to
> ignore this, but I've got an excuse.  I'm waiting for the Zope.org
> steering committee to solve it!  Chuckle.  In the meantime, "what
> slowness.. I don't know what you're talking about.."
> 
> I have given Manager role in the entirety of the 2.7 edition book to
> both Peter and Paul.  Anyone else who wants to contribute, please let me
> know which chapter(s) you'd like to sign up to revise and I will provide
> you access as necessary. I've set up a project wiki for the project at
> http://zope.org/Members/mcdonc/ZB_project where people can get a sense
> of which chapters are still available.  It may not be available yet...
> still waiting for it to save.
> 
> I will take ownership of the Installation chapter for now (I will
> probably take ownership of some other chapters, but I'll start small...)
> 
> - C
> 
> 
> 
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