[Zope-dev] AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

[Andreas Jung]

--On 7. Oktober 2007 01:46:50 -0300 David Pratt <fairwinds at eastlink.ca> 
wrote:

> Hi Andreas. Let me say I see the development paradigms as being the
> following without prejudice to any application that depends upon zope 3.
> Respectfully, no one is building walls. my contribution to the discussion
> is not about isolating folks but of the reality of the software
> differences.
>
> zope 3 - an open framework - no borders, no boundaries - write and think
> as a python programmer. In essence zope 3 is is a framework without a
> frame. This fact that exists in this form gives it its elegance and
> power. It does not need to be an application and is more interesting when
> it is not.
>
> zope 2 - an application tied strongly the cmf with the notion of a cms as
> the app. It is self contained and it is able to absorb zope 3 packages
> and technologies. I see plone as an application layer build on top of the
> zope 2 application.

We don't need to start a discussion about the architecture. Both versions 
have a different history and a different architecture but they serve 
basically the same purpose: building web apps in the first place.
And both versions play nicely together. I assume there are currently
much more Zope 2 developers or Zope 2 developers also developing with Zope 
3 than pure Zope 3 developers...so it is basically having the pure Zope 3 
developers together with all other Zope developers. It would be dangerous
to split up both parties. Zope 2 developers need to know what's going on in 
Zope 3 _and_ vis-versa. The initial argument about more email traffic on a 
common list is only a spurious argument. Both -dev lists mostly contain 
posting with reasonable subjects....scanning some more mails per day really 
is not an issue. I am also subscribed to the zope3-dev list and I am not 
reading everything but at least watching the list gives me an impression
about current discussions and current issues that might be of interest
for the Zope 2 world.

Andreas
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