[Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

Alex Clark aclark at aclark.net
Wed May 11 08:50:25 EDT 2011

Hi Jens,

On 5/11/11 1:54 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
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> On 5/11/11 02:04 , Alex Clark wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On 5/10/11 5:38 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:15, Jens Vagelpohl<jens at dataflake.org>   wrote:
>>>> I strongly disagree on the term "Zope 2". Now is a great time to finally
>>>> stop the Zope2/3 confusion: Kill that name and start using a more
>>>> sensible name, such as "the Zope application server".
>> Right. However I'm not convinced this is something you can
>> agree/disagree on. Zope 2 exists. Zope 3 does not (it was split apart
>> and renamed). As such, I don't see a problem with referring to it (Zope
>> 2) by name (it's not Voldemort, after all). Someday it will die; but
>> that day is not today. And until that day comes (or it gets renamed,
>> heaven forbid) I would strive for clear and consistent branding (and in
>> this case, I think I would also try to make it clear that Zope 2 is
>> "legacy" software).
> Zope 2 was never a brand. It only existed to have a name for the older
> application server when Zope 3 existed. It led to confusion and still
> does. The name must go away. It is now the only application server with
> the "Zope" name left, and that's a simple, clear and consistent brand.
> We can help make the Zope 2 name go away by stopping its use on
> "official" community sites like the new zope.org.

That's a good point. And I didn't mean to suggest Zope2 itself was a 
brand, just that the "Zope" brand could be improved by clarifying its 

Anyway, I can probably live with "Zope" being synonymous for "Zope 2 
application server" (like regebro says, it is the status quo.)

In which case, the "brand" becomes synonymous with its most famous offering.


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