[Zope-PAS] General question about PAS usage

[Janko Hauser]

Jens Vagelpohl schrieb:
> On Feb 20, 2005, at 12:37, Janko Hauser wrote:
>
>>It seems there is a general trend for the established Zope-CMS's to
>>migrate to PAS. At the current state of PAS this will be done by
>>subclassing or by monkeypatching. PPAS has added API's for the
>>usermanagement and also added further plugins. If I understand it
>>right it also has changed the id-mangling.
>>
>>I also do not see a way to distribute plugins standalone, as there is
>>no API to add plugins after the instantiation of a pluginregistry.
>>
>>My concern is, that this will lead to incompatible changes in the
>>different projects. From reading the archives the id-mangling is a
>>fundamental feature, which will reflect back to the code of the
>>plugins.
>>
>>So my question is, how other users of PAS do want to deal with this
>>situation and what will be the general direction PAS-development will
>>take. Should it actually become the main userfolder implementation? If
>>yes, would it be worthwhile to integrate it into the Zope-core code?
>>At the moment PAS is more of an insider product, and will remain so,
>>as there is no real enduser documentation.
>
>
> IMHO a lot of people who write these extensions and extended products
> have the attitude that it's easier to just concentrate improvements in
> their own product than giving much thought to improving the underlying
> base product for all of us.
>

Ah, as I said, I used PPAS only as an example. And the developers have
separated the modifications and clearly stated, what could be adopted
by the PAS-core development, both in source as here on the list.

> Part of that is understandable when you realize how hard it is at this
> moment to get anyone's attention at ZC (who still shepherds the product
> in some way) because no one has time there.
>

Time and resources are always a problem, but I want first the input of
the ZC-people, how they see the state of the product and the input of
the other users (which are not many I presume) and future adopters
(which are hopefully some more).

with regards,

__Janko