[ZWeb] Re: optional registration/info during install

Paul Everitt paul@digicool.com
Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:23:16 -0400

Howdy folks.  I've been mulling over an idea that I think might fly with
privacy people, provide real value for end users, and real value for
zope.org's goal of estimating the size of the zope universe.

Imagine if the future of Zope downloads was to get the basics of the
binary setup for your platform.  The first login provided a
configuration screen that asked for a couple of things:

1) The login name for your Zope.org account.

2) The "name" of the site that you're configuring and an optional

Clicking "Next" connects to your Zope.org member folder, and creates a
new "site" in a "sites" folder.  The user gets back a page that shows
all the updates and new packages available for install.  You might also
be given an option to download documentation updates.

Of course this presumes that, in the future, Zope is able to do "ZSync"
types of operations on Zope products.  But presuming that, I think this
would give a pretty seriously attractive reason to use the facility.  We
could increase the value by giving people the option to be emailed when
the packages they were using were updated.

The only thing that would be "centralized" is the label that you chose
for your site and the packages/revisions that you installed.  And tying
it to your zope.org membership simply ties it to a system of privacy
that people are already used to.



Shane Hathaway wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Donald Braman wrote:
> > That sounds good, too. How does the pine system work? Can it send system
> > data (OS, version, etc.) and can it identify repeat emails from the same
> > users (say, if someone reinstalls)? If the pine model is really bare bones,
> > perhaps user's could choose between three options: (1) don't send anything
> > to zope.org; (2) send an anonymous email identifying the version of Zope
> > used; (3) register with Zope.org through a web-based form at zope.org or an
> > emailable form.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > ps. How do the developers evaluate an idea (feature request) like this? Poll
> > current users? Post to zope@zope.org?
> Yikes!  On second thought, if we suggested anything like this using a
> poll, a lot of people would come unglued.  The idea works for Pine because
> Pine is maintained by a bunch of volunteers.  It would be a disaster for
> Zope, being maintained by a for-profit company.  Sorry I suggested it.
> Shane
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shane@localhost.localdomain [mailto:shane@localhost.localdomain]On
> > Behalf Of Shane Hathaway
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:35 PM
> > To: Donald Braman
> > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] RE: Zope users
> >
> >
> > Donald Braman wrote:
> > >
> > > This question makes me think that it might be nice for people to be able
> > > (though not required) to "register" Zope during installation. I know that
> > > sounds corporate, but the list of registered users could be used to email
> > > them about security patches, updates, etc. You could even throw in some
> > > optional questions about hardware used, etc. Is that something that the
> > > folks at zope.org would be willing to keep track of? Just a thought. -Don
> >
> > Or maybe do what Pine (an email client) does: the first time you use it,
> > it asks you if you would like to send an anonymous email to the Pine
> > development team at the University of Washington in Seattle, just so the
> > developers can get a general idea of how many people are using it.
> >
> > Shane
> >
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