[ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Come kick some tires, at new.zope.org

Thomas B. Passin tpassin@mitretek.org
Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:25:30 -0400

[Martijn Pieters]

> On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:06:42PM +0200, Joachim Werner wrote:
> > Please let somebody do some real web design for the site before it goes
> > online. I am sure you'll even find people who'll do that for free. The
> > current design is not competitive at all.
> >
> > Look at all the new CMF sites that are emerging in the community, like
> > ZopeZen, MetaZope, or Zopera. They are all different in design, but IMHO
> > much better than the current one for the new zope.org.
> >
> > I have heard things like "Zope might be cool, but can you also do
> > NICE-LOOKING sites with it?" quite often, just because the old (and as
> > seems) new zope.org look so half-baked in design ...
> The CMF skin system makes it easy enough to develop new skins around a
> running site. Our current focus is new.Zope.org running; there are only so
> many hours in a day!
> After new.zope.org has launched, we'll take submissions for skin proposals
> from you volunteers ;) Remember, Zope.org is a community web site!

It's not about skins, though, it's about design.  I agree with Joachim on
this.  Skins alone won't make it a good or attractive site.

As for " Our current focus is new.Zope.org running; there are only so many
hours in a day!", I sympathize but if everyone took that approach to the
software, well, that's a proven way to produce bad software.  Don't think
it's any different for site design.

It's not just about marketing, either, it's about whether people want to
come back to the site.


Tom P